Linked by David Adams on Tue 13th Dec 2011 02:41 UTC, submitted by sjvn
Editorial The more I look at what HP has had to say about webOS; the more I think the project's as dead as a doornail.
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RE: On the flip side...
by UltraZelda64 on Tue 13th Dec 2011 05:14 UTC in reply to "On the flip side..."
UltraZelda64
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As a commercial OS, though, it's likely dead.

Dead is dead. Something can't be dead, yet not dead at the same time. Unless it is the undead, a zombie maybe...

So until proof exists that WebOS has lost all forms of life/interest, it is not dead. "No commercial future" certainly doesn't mean that it is "dead."

Edited 2011-12-13 05:14 UTC

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HALP!!!
by Kivada on Tue 13th Dec 2011 08:39 in reply to "RE: On the flip side..."
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2010-07-07

"As a commercial OS, though, it's likely dead.

Dead is dead. Something can't be dead, yet not dead at the same time. Unless it is the undead, a zombie maybe...
"

Zombie processes have invaded my computer!

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RE: HALP!!!
by sparkyERTW on Tue 13th Dec 2011 13:18 in reply to "HALP!!!"
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2010-06-09

Dead is dead. Something can't be dead, yet not dead at the same time.


Unless it's only MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive.

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RE[2]: On the flip side...
by BluenoseJake on Tue 13th Dec 2011 18:30 in reply to "RE: On the flip side..."
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2005-08-11

Quantum Mechanics allows this sort of thing all the time. Google Schrodingers Cat. Basically, all particles exist in a mix of all possible states until somebody measures it, then the different states collapse, and leave you with the most likely state.

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RE[3]: On the flip side...
by sithlord2 on Tue 13th Dec 2011 19:22 in reply to "RE[2]: On the flip side..."
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2009-04-02

Quantum Mechanics allows this sort of thing all the time. Google Schrodingers Cat. Basically, all particles exist in a mix of all possible states until somebody measures it, then the different states collapse, and leave you with the most likely state.


Not exactly. If I remember correctly, the purpose of the story of Schrödinger's cat was actually a form of criticism against this interpretation of quantum mechanics.

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RE[3]: On the flip side...
by zima on Tue 20th Dec 2011 23:59 in reply to "RE[2]: On the flip side..."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Quantum Mechanics allows this sort of thing all the time. Google Schrodingers Cat. Basically, all particles exist in a mix of all possible states until somebody measures it, then the different states collapse, and leave you with the most likely state.

Don't say "exist" (and so on) like it's a done deal (also, not necessarily "somebody" - might be as well SOMETHING & ~'observation means interaction' - well, at least in part of the variants); it's just one of interpretations of quantum mechanics, interpretations basically trying to give an answer to the "but, what do those equations actually mean, what kind of world do they actually describe?" question ...which, in the end, is not even that important (one of interpretations essentially states that the equations ARE our world)

Plus, Kopenhagen doesn't really advocate both dead and alive cats, that thought experiment mostly just shows how different quantum world is from our own weird narrow slice, weird scale & perception (really, think about how, say, ridiculously 'dense & filled' it is with 'solid' objects, in comparison to the standards of quantum world or of the large scale universe structures - arguably more 'real' ones, in how they actually matter)

And nearby...
also, you see this effect in real life if you use a diffraction grating with an electron, it causes a pattern of diffraction to be formed by the single electron moving through the grating. This is caused by the electron taking all possible paths to it's destination.

That goes into gibberish - single electron will never form a pattern of diffraction, it will hit in one spot and that's it (interaction with the target is what shows the "particle" behaviour).
'Probability wave' of "the single electron" in quantum superposition takes all paths - it can interact with itself, influences the chances of where that spot will be. Duality here means that aggregates of many electrons, which didn't have the opportunity to interact among themselves in any way, reveal the distribution characteristic of diffraction (but one might as well hit in a "minimum" of two-slit interference)

Edited 2011-12-21 00:19 UTC

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RE[2]: On the flip side...
by sithlord2 on Tue 13th Dec 2011 19:17 in reply to "RE: On the flip side..."
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2009-04-02


Dead is dead. Something can't be dead, yet not dead at the same time.


Schrödinger would like to have a word with you...

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