Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 15th Dec 2011 16:56 UTC
Internet Explorer As it turns out, Google's idea of silently and automatically updating web browsers for security's sake is actually a pretty darn good idea - Chrome is pretty much always up-to-date. Microsoft agrees with this, and has announced it's going to automatically update Internet Explorer on Windows XP, Vista and 7.
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muszek
Member since:
2007-04-25

We have (tens, hundreds of?) thousands of web developer who have spend millions of hours working around "bugs" in IE. And it's probably the least pleasant part of our job (well... maybe trying to sell our services is worse).

And why? I strongly believe that all these "bugs" are a result of a conscious decision to make IE render pages differently than all other browsers. It pays off to disobey standards when you have a 90% monopoly (like they used to) - a large number of "web developers" didn't even check their sites in other browsers. And it's the other browsers that looked bad, not IE. Just like Open/Libre Office pays for MS fscking up efforts to establish a common document format. How many times have you heard that OpenOffice sucks because it messes up MS Office documents?

So, to sum up - incompetent managers rely on technology from an evil company and hire incompetent developers. Why the hell am I to pay for it???

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Most problems with IE (especially past 7) is a result of sloppy web developers, some who don't understand why the browser has problems rendering pages when they put block elements within a inline element.

IE7 can be a PITA with absolute and relative positioning if you aren't careful, but static positioning it is largely fine.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

It's the web developer's fault that IE6/7 can't render standards compliant HTML that renders properly in every other browser? Wow.. just... wow.

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muszek Member since:
2007-04-25

I have a car that only turns left. So if you only turn right, you will largely be fine.

IE<8 has tens of more-or less common rendering bugs that. The scope of their fsckups is much broader than just positioning.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

I agree that killing off the more incompatible IE versions is a good thing. IE6 is a horrible mess for any web dev to have to support.

http://www.ie6countdown.com/

Interesting that I got modded down for suggesting users review updates before isntalling. I can't really take the modding system seriously though. Meh.. can't please everyone.. even with solid recommendations for practicing safe hex. ;)

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