Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 15th Dec 2011 22:44 UTC, submitted by lemur2
KDE "Mobile devices that adapt to who you are, reflecting what you are doing when you are doing it. This concept is at the heart of the Plasma Active user experience. Plasma Active One was released in October 2011, providing early adopters the first opportunity to experience Activities on a tablet. Since then, the design and development team behind this open source touch interface has been hard at work on an update. The fruits of their labor were released today, December 14, 2011 as Plasma Active Two."
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RE[3]: GUI Design
by gnemmi on Sat 17th Dec 2011 07:51 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: GUI Design"
gnemmi
Member since:
2006-08-17

The vast majority of people are not even remotely that organized that they will create activities for different projects and connect their files and web pages and relevant apps together.

Don´t worry about them ... they won´t even know activities are there to get the best out of their tablet using experience.. they will still live their happy lives toying aroung with their single activity tablets...

Now, as for the rest of us, those who know about activities, how they work, why are they there, how to make good use of them and squeeze our desktops dry to their´s last drop ... well: we do care, a lot!

Start worring about activities the they someone points a gun to your head and forces you to use them ... or the day someone leaves you with no choice but to deal with them ( should that day ever come ) ...

But, please, for the time being just let it flow ... there´s a whole lot of people that does understand activities and the paradign behind them, use them on a daily basis and have greatly improved their whole desktop experience ;)

Best Regards.

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RE[4]: GUI Design
by terrakotta on Sat 17th Dec 2011 08:46 in reply to "RE[3]: GUI Design"
terrakotta Member since:
2010-04-21

While I can see a benefit to activities, and I do try to use them myself, I fail miserably in adding them to my productivity:
1) if an activity is closed, and a program that was opened in that activity still resides in the system tray, opening that program will relaunch the activity that opened it: this is utterly wrong. Either the activity should remove it from the system tray on stopping the activity, or it should just open the window in the current activity. The result is a slow desktop that behaves badly and incoherently (coherence is one of their main thing of kde now isn't it?)
2) switching between activities is a pain in the ass, there used to be a alt+tab kindoff shortcut, but I can't find it anymore, and clicking every time on an icon to have a slow plasma (4-core system with 6gig of ram...) panel show up to click on a new icon just to switch to a different activity?
3) there's no visual meaning to activities, i.e. take webos or it's desktop counterpart gnome 3, a new activity has a meaning there, I know that in kde in each activity you can have different numbers of desktops, but how does a human being keep track of 16 different activities with each different numbers of desktops... rejoice the chaos created by order.
4) manually changing per window rule settings to tell a program it belongs to this or that activity, or even to multiple is just not productive and slow.
5) programs like opera do have a problem with this behavior, if you have two opera instances each in a different desktop, and you close one of these activities to later open them up again, guess what, opera will open a new window but not in the correct activity

Sure activities have potential, but after two+ years of development it's still not useful. The only reason I'm staying is because gnome 3 does not have the right programs, a task bar is useful (even with their desktop paradigm) and the (albeit slow) most functional window manager remains kwin.

Edited 2011-12-17 08:48 UTC

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RE[5]: GUI Design
by Yagami on Sat 17th Dec 2011 10:14 in reply to "RE[4]: GUI Design"
Yagami Member since:
2006-07-15

you said :

"3) there's no visual meaning to activities, i.e. take webos or it's desktop counterpart gnome 3, a new activity has a meaning there, I know that in kde in each activity you can have different numbers of desktops, but how does a human being keep track of 16 different activities with each different numbers of desktops... rejoice the chaos created by order. "

you can ? you cannot do this on the desktop at least.

Also , that is one of the most asked features on the desktop. Search kde bugzilla features.

Finally, nobody asks you to have 16 activities all the time. But its still better than having 320 windows on the same desktop ;)

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RE[5]: GUI Design
by lemur2 on Sun 18th Dec 2011 01:09 in reply to "RE[4]: GUI Design"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

switching between activities is a pain in the ass, there used to be a alt+tab kindoff shortcut, but I can't find it anymore, and clicking every time on an icon to have a slow plasma (4-core system with 6gig of ram...) panel show up to click on a new icon just to switch to a different activity?


Checkout System Settings => Shortcuts and gestures => Global keyboard shortcuts. For the pull-down box labelled KDE component, select Plasma Desktop Shell component.

You will see therein:

Meta+tab => next activity
Meta+shift+tab => previous activity

Even on my very humble systems, Plasma is not slow. Not at all. If it is slow on your system, then this must be due to some part of your system that is different to mine. If we are running the same KDE and Plasma desktop shell, then the slow part of your system that is not slow on any of my very mundane systems must be something that is not part of KDE.

My mundane systems include two Intel Atom netbooks (1G RAM only), and Acer Aspire One 522 netbook (2G RAM), and an Athlon 64x2 2Ghz system (3G RAM). They all have very modest GPUs.

If your capable system is slow running Plasma compared to my very modest systems, then your underlying system is broken, not KDE itself.

Edited 2011-12-18 01:15 UTC

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