Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Dec 2011 11:27 UTC
Legal I'm guessing Apple is getting desperate, since its software patent lawsuits aren't doing particularly well. Moving on from software and design patents, the company is now suing Samsung over... Patents for mobile phone and tablet cases (more at The Verge). I think Apple has more offensive lawsuits than products now, so technically, "patent maker" is more accurate than "gadget maker" or "device maker". Fun times.
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RE[2]: two sides of the coin
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 20th Dec 2011 16:42 UTC in reply to "RE: two sides of the coin"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Quite simple. That would require people pull their heads out of the ground and admit that all the negative comments they've made about company X and be applied to the companies they seem to love so much too.


Call me when Samsung files an offensive software patent lawsuit.

That's the difference. Apple's main source of income is threatened, and instead of competing, they litigate using software patents. Samsung, HTC, and so on are *defending* themselves.

This isn't rocket science.

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RE[3]: two sides of the coin
by shmerl on Tue 20th Dec 2011 17:44 in reply to "RE[2]: two sides of the coin"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Yes, self defense is different from aggression.

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RE[3]: two sides of the coin
by ilovebeer on Tue 20th Dec 2011 20:22 in reply to "RE[2]: two sides of the coin"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

Call me when Samsung files an offensive software patent lawsuit.

That's the difference. Apple's main source of income is threatened, and instead of competing, they litigate using software patents. Samsung, HTC, and so on are *defending* themselves.

Are you under the impression that Samsung is a "model" company that operates only with the highest moral considerations? That's laughable at the least if so.

Neither Apple's income nor their success as a business is at risk. To suggest otherwise, you simply don't understand how they are positioned in the market and the current state of their financial standing.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it isn't. But apparently that isn't stopping people from confusing themselves, posting misleading and/or uninformed content, and/or neglecting to do their homework before they come to silly conclusions.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Are you under the impression that Samsung is a "model" company that operates only with the highest moral considerations? That's laughable at the least if so.


Why would I be under that impression?

But apparently that isn't stopping people from confusing themselves, posting misleading and/or uninformed content, and/or neglecting to do their homework before they come to silly conclusions.


God it must suck to be an Apple fanboy these days.

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RE[3]: two sides of the coin
by kristoph on Tue 20th Dec 2011 20:28 in reply to "RE[2]: two sides of the coin"
kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

Samsung has filed a number of offensive patents suits against Apple.

(Look up the last big debate we had about this where you started the article saying that Samsung was 'going on the offensive' against Apple.)

Generally I think Apple's suits are both lame and unnecessary. The iPad design suits are especially lame because, really, the physical design of the iPad is hardly so unique as to be patentable.

These suits on the cases have much more merit. If you look at the cases their basically a blatant ripoff. No rational person can argue that.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Samsung has filed a number of offensive patents suits against Apple.


Like which?

Apple started this lowlife software patent war. Samsung, HTC, etc. are defending themselves. You know this, yet as the Apple fanboy that you are, your brain simply can't process that your favourite pet company is engaging in patent troll behaviour. As such, your brain is in a state of cognitive dissonance. What you are doing now, with trying laughably to make a villain out of a company trying to defend itself, is your brain trying to cope with integrating the new information (Apple is a patent troll) into your existing beliefs (Apple is all that is good in the world).

This is all so incredibly entertaining.

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RE[4]: two sides of the coin
by JAlexoid on Tue 20th Dec 2011 20:52 in reply to "RE[3]: two sides of the coin"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Samsung has filed a number of offensive patents suits against Apple.

(Look up the last big debate we had about this where you started the article saying that Samsung was 'going on the offensive' against Apple.)


Yep, by that standard Russians were the aggressors in WW2, because they were "going on the offensive" for the whole second part of WW2.

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RE[3]: two sides of the coin
by brichpmr on Thu 22nd Dec 2011 11:08 in reply to "RE[2]: two sides of the coin"
brichpmr Member since:
2006-04-22

"Quite simple. That would require people pull their heads out of the ground and admit that all the negative comments they've made about company X and be applied to the companies they seem to love so much too.


Call me when Samsung files an offensive software patent lawsuit.

That's the difference. Apple's main source of income is threatened, and instead of competing, they litigate using software patents. Samsung, HTC, and so on are *defending* themselves.

This isn't rocket science.
"


It must be 'rocket science' to you, because I think you have this arse backwards. Apple competes and continues to win millions of customers through near-flawless marketing execution, unrivaled customer satisfaction with their products and arguably the best integrated ecosystem available to the masses. They litigate when Samsung and their ilk attempt to ride Apple's successful coattails with apparent knockoffs that don't pass the giggle test.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

They litigate when Samsung and their ilk attempt to ride Apple's successful coattails with apparent knockoffs that don't pass the giggle test.


...and yet, Apple is bleeding market share, with Android continuing to grow. If Apple's products really are as good as you say, yet people choose similarly priced Android devices en masse, doesn't that mean Android really isn't as bad as you make it out to be (or, more accurately, iOS simply isn't as good as you make it out to be)?

But hey, don't let the facts stand in your way of your fanboyism.

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