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RE[7]: Does anybody here think Samsung did not copy Apple?
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 21st Dec 2011 16:08
in reply to "RE[6]: Does anybody here think Samsung did not copy Apple?"
"So, what is new/original about, say, the iPhone? I dare you to name 3 concrete features, ideas, or technologies about the iPhone that were new. Just three.
Usable (i.e. pleasant to use) mobile browser? Opera didn't even compare.
The whole touch interface? Yes there were touchscreens, but they simply were not up to the iPhone standard in usability.
capacitive touch screen? OK I'm not certain but I don't remember other touchscreens using this before iPhone.
App store? you have to admit, they got this right!
iPod functionality in a phone? I have a Samsung D900 and trust me, Samsung were FAR behind on this front. "
You just proved my point. None of these were new. None of these were invented by Apple (some were even bought, like multitouch). App Store? Nothing new, something like that already existed for mobile Java applications or the Sidekick. Apple didn't invent the capacitive touch screen. It was created in the academic world, built by LG. In fact, LG was the first to ship a phone with a capacitive touch screen (the Prada, I have one).
See my point? Apple doesn't invent. Apple takes other people's ideas, and makes them better. That's a great skill, and they're definitely market leader there in mobile. However, that's not inventing.
Edited 2011-12-21 16:09 UTC
RE[8]: Does anybody here think Samsung did not copy Apple?
by lustyd on Wed 21st Dec 2011 16:14
in reply to "RE[7]: Does anybody here think Samsung did not copy Apple?"
You just proved my point. None of these were new. None of these were invented by Apple (some were even bought, like multitouch). App Store? Nothing new, something like that already existed for mobile Java applications or the Sidekick. Apple didn't invent the capacitive touch screen. It was created in the academic world, built by LG. In fact, LG was the first to ship a phone with a capacitive touch screen (the Prada, I have one).
See my point? Apple doesn't invent. Apple takes other people's ideas, and makes them better. That's a great skill, and they're definitely market leader there in mobile. However, that's not inventing.
See my point? Apple doesn't invent. Apple takes other people's ideas, and makes them better. That's a great skill, and they're definitely market leader there in mobile. However, that's not inventing.
Oh come on Thom, Apple don't need to invent every component - they invented the usage and implementation. You are proving my point nicely - nobody else had effectively used ANY of these inventions until Apple came along despite their obvious availability. Apple then licenced or bought the technology, implemented a device, PATENTED their ideas to protect their investment, then made those devices some of the most successful the world has seen. Ford didn't invent the wheel but they still made quite a lot of money from motorcars which used it to good effect.
The problem is, Samsung copied the idea, the implementation and even the design (tell me you didn't double take the first time you saw the Samsung phone). This is where patents come in, to force a court to decide if Samsung came up with those things or just blatantly ripped them off.
RE[8]: Does anybody here think Samsung did not copy Apple?
by leos on Wed 21st Dec 2011 16:21
in reply to "RE[7]: Does anybody here think Samsung did not copy Apple?"
See my point? Apple doesn't invent.
"An invention is a novel composition, device, or process. An invention may be derived from a pre-existing model or idea, or it could be independently conceived."
You don't even know what invention means. Invention is not just a piece of hardware.
By the way, you think LG invented the capacitative touch screen? Don't be daft. Just because they slapped it onto a phone doesn't mean they invented it. However, they did invent that particular phone.





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Usable (i.e. pleasant to use) mobile browser? Opera didn't even compare.
The whole touch interface? Yes there were touchscreens, but they simply were not up to the iPhone standard in usability.
capacitive touch screen? OK I'm not certain but I don't remember other touchscreens using this before iPhone.
App store? you have to admit, they got this right!
iPod functionality in a phone? I have a Samsung D900 and trust me, Samsung were FAR behind on this front.