Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 27th Dec 2011 21:50 UTC
Windows Fascinating, this. As a Windows Phone 7 user, I can attest that it is every bit as good as iOS and Android - heck, in my experience, it is more polished, more consistent, smoother, and faster than either of those two. Yet, despite raving reviews and glowing user comments all over the web, Windows Phone 7 simply isn't selling. Former Windows Phone 7 general manager Charlie Kindel believes it's because neither carriers nor device makers like the control Microsoft exerts over the platform.
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Does that mean...
by Narishma on Tue 27th Dec 2011 22:36 UTC
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...that Nokia is screwed?

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RE: Does that mean...
by gan17 on Tue 27th Dec 2011 22:43 in reply to "Does that mean..."
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I sure hope so. I bought the N9 to celebrate the life of a once great company. They're dead to me now.

Regarding WP7 phones. I wouldn't know if they're any good since I've never used one myself, but I guess it does have something to do with how MS are mandating everything.

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RE: Does that mean...
by Codester on Wed 28th Dec 2011 02:59 in reply to "Does that mean..."
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"that Nokia is screwed?"

Nokia spent a lot of money (billions) on Symbian and Maemo/Meego and then walked away from both when Microsoft paid them a billion dollars to go solely with Windows Phone 7 on their smartphones. It didn't hurt that the CEO of Nokia had just come from a 2 year stint with Microsoft.

But their CEO has already said something regarding Windows Phone 7. I don't remember the exact quote but it was something like "If Windows Phone 7 doesn't take off, we're screwed". But I believe he added a sentiment that they were screwed if they didn't go to Windows Phone 7.

The really incredible part of it is that in October 2010 the head technical guy at Nokia proclaimed that Qt would be the only way to develop for Symbian/Meego in the future. Then a less than 4 months later Nokia chose probably the only OS that will never run Qt.

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RE[2]: Does that mean...
by aaronmcohen on Wed 28th Dec 2011 03:36 in reply to "RE: Does that mean..."
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I think Nokia will survive if WP7 does not. Essentially only a small amount of their high-end phones will us it. Symbian/S40 is not dead and it will be 5 years till MS can replace it on the low end. So there is still Nokia resources being pored into Symbian/S40 to defend 99.9% of their revenue. Developers are going to develop for what their target customers are using. The Specs for the Nokia Phones will probably work 100% with Android. If they don't get traction with WP7, I wouldn't be surprised if they extend the existing S40/Symbian SDK to work with Android. They have already acknowledge that this isn't possible with WP7 but is currently being done with Android. Yes there is WP7 migration documentation for QT and Java applications but you are are going to be rewriting nearly everything in the process.

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RE: Does that mean...
by TemporalBeing on Wed 28th Dec 2011 18:26 in reply to "Does that mean..."
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...that Nokia is screwed?

No. Their Billion dollar deal with Microsoft means they have to provide a few phones with WP7 on it; but it by no means means that they can only develop phones with WP7.

In fact, last I heard, that deal primarily affects that North American markets too...though I could be wrong.

In the end, wait for one of Microsoft's biggest shareholds to leave Nokia (e.g. CEO Stephen Elop) and then for the guy that replaces him to turn the ship again back to Symbian/MeeGo or even Android.

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