Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 29th Dec 2011 16:22 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless It all started with Apple/TechCrunch blogger M.G. Siegler making a huge fuss over something he didn't understand, and while that in and of itself isn't particularly interesting, one of the outcomes of this little internet drama is a comment on Google+ (the tenth one) that so perfectly encapsulates just how important Android is for the world that I felt the need to share it with you. It's the holiday season after all.
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I am confused.
by Windows Sucks on Thu 29th Dec 2011 18:39 UTC
Windows Sucks
Member since:
2005-11-10

As others have said here. I want to see a "poor" person take Android and use it without having to buy a device and still spend money.

Last I looked the 3GS which is better then any low cost Android phone was free with a contract. The companies (At least in the US, can't speak for the world) that have the most easy access to "poor" people, sell their crappy Android phones for sky high prices ($150 minimum) Like Boost mobile, Metro PCS and Cricket.

In reality the only thing that is revolutionary is that Google is the only company other then Red Hat who figured out how to monetize Linux.

Oh yeah and here we are again blowing off Apple like having the CEO of Google on Apples board didn't shape the direction they took at all. Or that giving Android away is any different then giving away Gmail.

But hey OSnews got a lot of hits today. LOL!

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RE: I am confused.
by Drumhellar on Thu 29th Dec 2011 19:30 in reply to "I am confused. "
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

Boost, Metro, and Cricket sell their devices at retail price, with no contract.


iPhone 3GS is subsidized by a contract. ATT also has a $375 early termination fee.

Boost and Metro also have much, much cheaper service, while offering unlimited usage.

It's like saying a Kia is more expensive than a BMW (Dammit. I hate car analogies) because BMW gives you free annual maintenance and what not for 5 years while Kia doesn't.

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RE[2]: I am confused.
by Windows Sucks on Thu 29th Dec 2011 20:11 in reply to "RE: I am confused. "
Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

Boost, Metro, and Cricket sell their devices at retail price, with no contract.


iPhone 3GS is subsidized by a contract. ATT also has a $375 early termination fee.

Boost and Metro also have much, much cheaper service, while offering unlimited usage.

It's like saying a Kia is more expensive than a BMW (Dammit. I hate car analogies) because BMW gives you free annual maintenance and what not for 5 years while Kia doesn't.


In a way that is right. But what is more hard. Big upfront cost or a little higher monthly cost. Boost is cheap IF you barely use it, same with Metro. But the most you use it the more it costs.

Please I don't know where you would find a subsidized Kia or BMW. LOL! No way you can get one for free. LOL!

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RE: I am confused.
by terrakotta on Thu 29th Dec 2011 22:17 in reply to "I am confused. "
terrakotta Member since:
2010-04-21

"
Last I looked the 3GS which is better then any low cost Android phone was free with a contract. The companies (At least in the US, can't speak for the world) that have the most easy access to "poor" people, sell their crappy Android phones for sky high prices ($150 minimum) Like Boost mobile, Metro PCS and Cricket. "

The american telecom market is completely fucked up, that's what you're seeing. High communication prices permit the carriers to 'subsidise' their iphones and 'give them away for free'. In Belgium, one can buy an android phone for 150€, compared to a more than a full 300€ for the iphone 3GS (taxes included for both phones).

To you it might look expensive, but considering that you can have a good data/telephony plan for 15€/month, the total cost over two years is less. Not to mention, you can buy yourself a new phone when it suits you (each 3-4 years), not when it suits your carrier (the phone is being paid for in that american 2 year plan remember).

It's still not the 25$ phones some people are wishing for (nokia still rules in that departement), but it's a heck of a lot closer than anything apple sells.

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RE[2]: I am confused.
by lemur2 on Fri 30th Dec 2011 01:31 in reply to "RE: I am confused. "
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"
Last I looked the 3GS which is better then any low cost Android phone was free with a contract. The companies (At least in the US, can't speak for the world) that have the most easy access to "poor" people, sell their crappy Android phones for sky high prices ($150 minimum) Like Boost mobile, Metro PCS and Cricket. "

The american telecom market is completely f--ked up, that's what you're seeing. High communication prices permit the carriers to 'subsidise' their iphones and 'give them away for free'. In Belgium, one can buy an android phone for 150€, compared to a more than a full 300€ for the iphone 3GS (taxes included for both phones).

To you it might look expensive, but considering that you can have a good data/telephony plan for 15€/month, the total cost over two years is less. Not to mention, you can buy yourself a new phone when it suits you (each 3-4 years), not when it suits your carrier (the phone is being paid for in that american 2 year plan remember).

It's still not the 25$ phones some people are wishing for (nokia still rules in that departement), but it's a heck of a lot closer than anything apple sells.


I have a cheap Android 2.3 smartphone, the Huawei U8510 IDEOS X3

http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_u8510_ideos_x3-3840.php

It cost me $99AUD outright, the only restriction is that it is locked to Vodafone. I expect to keep it for, say, three years.

I am not a heavy user of mobile phones. I use the phone pre-paid for up to a year at a time. The minimum amaont of credit I can have is $30 AUD.

This Vodafone deal lets me have a relatively full-featured (but underpowered) smartphone for three years at an all-up cost of under $200.

Try beating that with anything "iDevice"-ish.

Edited 2011-12-30 01:36 UTC

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RE[2]: I am confused.
by unclefester on Fri 30th Dec 2011 09:03 in reply to "RE: I am confused. "
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

In Australia an iPhone 3GS 8GB costs $449 unlocked.

I can get at least 20 different (often far better) unlocked Android models for (far) less money. The cheapest unlocked Android phone is the $78 Huawei X1.

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RE: I am confused.
by Splinter on Thu 29th Dec 2011 22:52 in reply to "I am confused. "
Splinter Member since:
2005-07-13

Most of the WORLD and especially the developing world use Pre-Paid mobile phones not contract tied post paid.

What most people here are doing is thinking that North America and Europe is the world. Wake up please... for the sake of us all.

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RE: I am confused.
by Neolander on Thu 29th Dec 2011 23:50 in reply to "I am confused. "
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

"Free with a contract" ? Yes, of course... What kind of contract, exactly ? How much does it cost a month ?

Don't believe that carriers can make hundreds of euros magically disappear. Phones cost money, even if they cost carriers a tiny bit less because they buy in bulk. "Smartphone" contracts costing €40 a month is what makes iPhones and other Nexuses *seem* so cheap. They aren't.

(Disclaimer : I buy my phones unlocked, with the cheapest available contract that fits my needs.)

Edited 2011-12-29 23:59 UTC

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