Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 6th Jan 2012 10:06 UTC
Windows And so the smartphonification of the general purpose computer continues. This time around, though, it might actually be for the better. Microsoft has detailed two new features in Windows 8: refreshing and resetting your computer. Reinstalls will be a thing of the past.
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manjabes
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2005-08-27

SSH is on the order of kilobytes. Its not meaningful bloat.

<nitpick>So a friendly little 5KB Blaster/Sasser/Sobig that starts up when an infected WinXP box boots is no big deal?</nitpick>

What I also find interesting is that MS got a lot of flak for so many (!) versions of Win7 but when it comes to Linux/BSD then the overwhelming choice is actually a good thing and it's usually the users' fault for choosing the wrong distro. (Jesus f***, did I just defend Microsoft here?? That felt weird...dirty even) BTW, for what it's worth, most of my "DLL hell for Linux v.0.3" occurred with SUSE (granted, with *buntu too).

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dragossh Member since:
2008-12-16

They get flak for that because while in Linux every distro gives you the same features, Windows 7 editions have varied feature sets.

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Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26


<nitpick>So a friendly little 5KB Blaster/Sasser/Sobig that starts up when an infected WinXP box boots is no big deal?</nitpick>

There's a difference between ONE 5KB file that sites idle with an open a socket, and half a dozen files that all actively and simultaneously download content from the web when the PC is busy performing one of it's most intensive operations.

Anyway, you're missing the whole point. We're not arguing that Linux is more or less bloated than Windows. I was simply stating that you don't need to manage about rouge update managers and start up processes in Linux in the same way you do in Windows as 3rd party installers don't install crap everywhere in Linux when you're pulling binaries from apt-get / yum / pacman / et al.


What I also find interesting is that MS got a lot of flak for so many (!) versions of Win7 but when it comes to Linux/BSD then the overwhelming choice is actually a good thing and it's usually the users' fault for choosing the wrong distro.

I don't know what sites you frequent but one of the biggest regular criticisms against Linux is the number of incompatible distros.

However the reason you got tacked on your point was because you were comparing a server distro to a desktop distro - which is akin to complaining that your netbook install of Windows as active directory and IIS yet you opted for Win Server 2008 instead of Win7.

So all we are asking is you compare like for like rather than muddling desktop and server installs as one desktop OS.

BTW, for what it's worth, most of my "DLL hell for Linux v.0.3" occurred with SUSE (granted, with *buntu too).

Yeah, SuSE can get it's knickers in a twist if you try to pull RPMs from outside the official repositories. It one of my biggest grips with SuSE (we run SLES at work and I'd quite happily replace them if the IT director would let me)

Edited 2012-01-07 12:27 UTC

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