Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 6th Jan 2012 17:47 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes Ah yes, why not? The last time we did this, it was March 2011, so it's been almost a year since we offered a little insight into what kind of operating systems and browsers you, dear readers, are using. Nothing particularly earth-shattering going on here.
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RE: Flash usage
by rayson on Fri 6th Jan 2012 19:06 UTC in reply to "Flash usage"
rayson
Member since:
2009-05-21

Everyone install Adobe's Flash Player 'just in case™'. I cannot see any reason to deliberately uninstall it.


On my windows partition, I only enable Flash in IE (mainly for viewing YouTube), and most of the time I use FireFox. On Linux I did not even bother to install Flash, as I have Chrome installed and use VP8 for YouTube playback.

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RE[2]: Flash usage
by phoenix on Fri 6th Jan 2012 21:23 in reply to "RE: Flash usage"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

"Everyone install Adobe's Flash Player 'just in case™'. I cannot see any reason to deliberately uninstall it.


On my windows partition, I only enable Flash in IE (mainly for viewing YouTube), and most of the time I use FireFox. On Linux I did not even bother to install Flash, as I have Chrome installed and use VP8 for YouTube playback.
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Chrome ships with Adobe Flash pre-installed as part of the browser install. Thus, you do have Flash installed. ;) Just check the plugins page in Chrome, and you'll see it listed there. Even on Linux.

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RE[3]: Flash usage
by Fusion on Fri 6th Jan 2012 21:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Flash usage"
Fusion Member since:
2005-07-18

Yep. And while I agree with Thom insofar as Flash not going away anytime soon... generalizing OSNews reader trends regarding Flash from his dataset is error prone.
Some users may actually be "uninstalling" flash... but since Chrome integrates its own binary blob of the flash plug-in, Chrome's jump from 8% to 30% may have blurred those "uninstall" numbers. Others may have flash installed (since it's still obnoxiously necessary for functionality on certain sites), but they may have a permission-based blocker ("click to show element") sorta thing running. Both of these serve as confound to the reliability and validity of flash "trends"...

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RE[3]: Flash usage
by rayson on Fri 6th Jan 2012 21:56 in reply to "RE[2]: Flash usage"
rayson Member since:
2009-05-21

Chrome ships with Adobe Flash pre-installed as part of the browser install. Thus, you do have Flash installed. ;) Just check the plugins page in Chrome, and you'll see it listed there. Even on Linux.


No, I made sure Flash is disabled in Chrome. I could not view Flash sites, and in fact some YouTube videos that are not VP8 encoded are not viewable in my Chrome installation.

Flash is the most annonying piece of software, and I always make sure that Flash is disabled in my default broswers. I don't want to use FlashBlock, and I don't want Flash, period.

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RE[2]: Flash usage
by Lennie on Sat 7th Jan 2012 11:06 in reply to "RE: Flash usage"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

The last few weeks YouTube has been pushing out changes and A/B testing* changed to perfect their support for WebM/HTML5 video.

For example, if you enable html5-support for Youtube at: http://youtube.com/html5

And you visit a different site with a YouTube video enabled, it is very much possible it will be displayed in HTML5/WebM.

I've also seen that YouTube has started to enable HTTPS support.

That means that https://youtube.com/ could be the default in the future. This is to protect the login-cookie users use (used by people who upload and comment).

Only the video is downloaded over HTTP from the caching servers (it is a different domain, thus the cookie won't be sent in that case).

Also they are enabling HTTPS so they can enable the use of SPDY.

SPDY is the faster 'HTTP-transport'-method of loading pages from Google as implemented in Chrome and maybe Firefox 10, but probably Firefox 11.

* A/B testing is that certain users temporarily see the new version and other users see the original. This is to test what happends when you enable new code without impacting all users if something does not work.

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RE[3]: Flash usage
by lucas_maximus on Sat 7th Jan 2012 17:23 in reply to "RE[2]: Flash usage"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

SPDY is not good in the sense that with Google Services Chrome looks like it is faster. Chrome kinda uses it secretly, which means things like gmail etc run faster than they do in other browsers.

Yeah it is an "open" standard but only Google are using it.

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RE[2]: Flash usage
by Hussein on Mon 9th Jan 2012 15:38 in reply to "RE: Flash usage"
Hussein Member since:
2008-11-22

I view YouTube and other video sites in HTML5 but still have Flash installed just in case. I use ClickToFlash so most of the time I'm not using Flash even though it is installed.

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