Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 6th Jan 2012 10:06 UTC
Windows And so the smartphonification of the general purpose computer continues. This time around, though, it might actually be for the better. Microsoft has detailed two new features in Windows 8: refreshing and resetting your computer. Reinstalls will be a thing of the past.
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RE[7]: Slow down?
by WereCatf on Sat 7th Jan 2012 15:37 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Slow down?"
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Yet it doesn't seem like they have to perform any scheduled defragmentation/maintenance tasks, save for the occasional fsck that has become extremely quick in ext4. So I have to wonder what it is on Windows that requires regular defragmentation to be performed for good HDD performance to be achieved.

I have been using Windows 7 for over a year now, without reinstallations and I actually tried running defrag a few weeks ago out of curiosity. Well, I had 1% fragmentation, no need to run it, even though I've been installing loads of games and applications and whatnot throughout the year.

As such I do not believe that either applies to current Windows.

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RE[8]: Slow down?
by Neolander on Sat 7th Jan 2012 16:09 in reply to "RE[7]: Slow down?"
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In their default configuration, Windows Vista and up are set up to run defrag automatically in the background as a scheduled task :

Edited 2012-01-07 16:12 UTC

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RE[8]: Slow down?
by bassbeast on Mon 9th Jan 2012 02:04 in reply to "RE[7]: Slow down?"
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I too have a ton of games on my Win 7 which has been running since Oct 09 (have replaced just about every part but the HDDs and only needed a single reactivation when i switched boards) and counting Steam games you're looking at over 100Gb of games and the highest i've had it fragment was 4%, big whoop. And I just checked tuneup and while it has been cleaning out some dead reg entries where I beat games and tossed them it hasn't needed to defrag yet so I'd say Windows has the frag problem licked pretty much.

Of course the sad part to me is how many won't believe it, same as i quit hanging around any sites where Linux users may congregate because i got tired of hearing "Windows constantly BSODs ZOMG!" like its still 1993. That would be like saying Linux doesn't have anything but a kernel since Torvalds only recently put it up on IRQ!

So lets resolve to bury some of the old FUD in 2012, kay? windows doesn't BSOD daily, you don't run as an admin, it doesn't get infected by turning it on , you don't have to hunt for driver discs (Windows Update now takes care of drivers) and it doesn't take a supercomputer to run win 7, in fact my oldest is running it quite well on a 6 year old Pentium D with 1.5Gb of RAM.

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RE[9]: Slow down?
by Neolander on Mon 9th Jan 2012 05:55 in reply to "RE[8]: Slow down?"
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As replied to the previous post, you can consider that Windows Vista and up have got fragmentation sorted out if and only if you are ready to ignore the thought that it keeps running defrag in the background every week, needlessly eating up power and cutting on your fragile HDD's lifetime in order to compensate for its terrible everyday file management performance.

Edited 2012-01-09 06:03 UTC

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RE[9]: Slow down?
by Alfman on Mon 9th Jan 2012 08:04 in reply to "RE[8]: Slow down?"
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"you don't have to hunt for driver discs (Windows Update now takes care of drivers)"

I wouldn't have responded to any of your other claims, but here I beg to differ. Windows 7 driver installations can still be particularly problematic before web access is available. Of course the problem is generally only witnessed by people who build their own windows systems and don't use the OEM recovery partition to install windows.

In all honestly I find that linux wired ethernet compatibility out of the box to be undeniably superior to any version of windows. Wireless on the other hand is a different story, I've spent numerous hours cursing linux distros for WLAN problems that the windows drivers don't share.

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