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RE[3]: Flash usage
by lucas_maximus on Sat 7th Jan 2012 17:23 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Flash usage"
lucas_maximus
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2009-08-18

SPDY is not good in the sense that with Google Services Chrome looks like it is faster. Chrome kinda uses it secretly, which means things like gmail etc run faster than they do in other browsers.

Yeah it is an "open" standard but only Google are using it.

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RE[4]: Flash usage
by Lennie on Sat 7th Jan 2012 20:49 in reply to "RE[3]: Flash usage"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

SPDY will be adopted by Firefox and is actually a good thing.

It helps solve the Bufferbloat problem too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbIozKVz73g

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RE[5]: Flash usage
by lucas_maximus on Mon 9th Jan 2012 10:15 in reply to "RE[4]: Flash usage"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

SPDY will be adopted by Firefox and is actually a good thing.

It helps solve the Bufferbloat problem too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbIozKVz73g


http://www.osnews.com/permalink?502566

Edited 2012-01-09 10:17 UTC

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RE[4]: Flash usage
by Soulbender on Sun 8th Jan 2012 06:30 in reply to "RE[3]: Flash usage"
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2005-08-18

SPDY is not good in the sense that with Google Services Chrome looks like it is faster.


How is that not good?

Chrome kinda uses it secretly, which means things like gmail etc run faster than they do in other browsers.


Again, how is that not good?

Yeah it is an "open" standard but only Google are using it.


Blame those not using it, not those that do.

Edited 2012-01-08 06:31 UTC

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RE[5]: Flash usage
by lucas_maximus on Mon 9th Jan 2012 10:14 in reply to "RE[4]: Flash usage"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Because it makes it appear that Google Services work faster in Chrome.

TBH SPDY on its own isn't a problem, instant pages only works in Chrome.

SPDY is only one example of where they are doing it.

I honestly thought we got away from this "It works better in <browser x>", that is a relic of the 1990s. Now I have actually seen some pages that say "Works best in Chrome" ... brilliant ... Browser Wars II

Edited 2012-01-09 10:19 UTC

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RE[5]: Flash usage
by zima on Fri 13th Jan 2012 23:51 in reply to "RE[4]: Flash usage"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

> SPDY is not good in the sense that with Google Services Chrome looks like it is faster.

How is that not good?

> Chrome kinda uses it secretly, which means things like gmail etc run faster than they do in other browsers.

Again, how is that not good?

> Yeah it is an "open" standard but only Google are using it.

Blame those not using it, not those that do.

Well it is somewhat reminiscent of Embrace, Extend...

I mean, come on, Opera is one of the most standards complaint browsers (also according to Chrome guys! http://blog.chromium.org/2010/03/does-your-browser-behave.html ), but it often works horrible / borderline unusable in js-heavy Google services; and now they're starting to neglect other browsers too, I hear.

Right now, for example, Gmail is basically broken - well, at least its js version ...and, again, that's despite Chromium guys claiming not a long time ago (when Gmail also worked poorly in Opera) that Opera is most standards-compliant in js!

Seems to me it's at least somewhat akin to bundling of IE in the case of Microsoft - strength in one area propping up another, and not strictly by virtue.

Edited 2012-01-14 00:09 UTC

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RE[4]: Flash usage
by dvhh on Mon 9th Jan 2012 04:06 in reply to "RE[3]: Flash usage"
dvhh Member since:
2006-03-20

And who should should we blame for the lack of ipv6 device ?

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RE[5]: Flash usage
by Lennie on Mon 9th Jan 2012 11:45 in reply to "RE[4]: Flash usage"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Who are to blame ?

If you ask the content providers: access providers

If you ask the access providers: hardware vendors

If you ask the hardware vendors: there is no demand

If you ask the users: most probably don't know what it is

I'm in the content provider business, I would say the hardware vendors are really slow to adopt it and I don't believe they didn't get requests from their customers about it as they kept claiming in the past that they did not get them.

The real problem of slow adoption by vendors is probably because the hardware (ASICS) needed to be created first which was probably an investment they wanted to delay for as long as possible.

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