Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 6th Jan 2012 10:06 UTC
Windows And so the smartphonification of the general purpose computer continues. This time around, though, it might actually be for the better. Microsoft has detailed two new features in Windows 8: refreshing and resetting your computer. Reinstalls will be a thing of the past.
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Laurence
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2007-03-26

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Oh and my little 'trick" is simply that, a trick I use to make sure i never have to mess with a machine again. the simple fact is I can slap an AV on a Windows box along with dragon or Firefox or anything other than IE and it'll be going a decade from now with NO tinkering. Can you say the same?

Yup, indeed you can. However the OS wouldn't be up to date, but then neither would your Windows box if you did what you were suggesting.


It has nothing to do with being a fanboy of anything,

So why the unbalanced opinion? At least I've admitted the negative aspects of Linux, you seem completely blind to the negative aspects of Windows.

its about knowing the market which its obvious the Linux community doesn't

And which market specifically is that which the "Linux community" (which please bare in mind is so massive that there's different facets for different niches) does not understand?

Your comment is such a sweeping generalisation that I could be here all day debunking such nonsense.

If I were to sell Linux boxes i'd be out of business in a year because I would have to provide free lifetime support AND have spares for when the 6 month upgrade broke something that a "fix" isn't out for yet AND have to deal with customers getting burned because the only way to buy devices is to play hardware roulette when it comes to Linux because all the forums have device lists horribly out of date. Sorry but I'd like to not go out of business and the only ones that Linux "works" for is geeks who don't mind fiddling, since i don't sell to geeks no sale.

All of my hardware works out of the box and I never check for Linux compatibility. I will admit that my first laptop had issues with it's graphics chip and wireless chipset (largely because ASUS, in their infinite wisdom, re-branded the chipsets so the generic drivers -which should have worked- didn't recognise the hardware. In fact Windows wouldn't recognise the same hardware out of the box either. But that's neither here nor there as the end result was the same). That's the only hardware I've ever struggled with in 10 years of Linux.

In all honesty, I have genuinely had just as much hardware go undetected in Windows as I have in Linux: Graphics chips that go undetected; soundcards and so on (just have a read through nerd forums and see the number of "Windows is not detecting xyz" thread to see my point). Windows is far from perfect on the driver front.

In fact, while we're talking about the n00bs, installing drivers can be a complete nightmare for them (particularly if they lose the driver CD supplied with their hardware). At least with Linux, virtually everything is detected and installed out of the box (bar closed binaries, but many of the n00b-focussed distros include simple GUI tools for switching between propitiatory and open drivers - tools which include downloading the drivers for you for added simplicity).

Again, I'm not trying to boast that Linux has better / easier to manage hardware support than Windows does. They both just work differently so I acknowledge the differences and the pros and cons they bring. Where as people like yourself can't see past the Windows ecosystem and thus assume that MS has developed the only working solution (which, quite frankly, is a narrow-minded attitude to have).

Expanding my point a little, many of the problems I've seen with Windows users condemning Linux is the complete ignorance towards it. They want Linux to behave like Windows and then complain when it doesn't. It's akin to buying an Android handset and demanding it function like Win Phone 7 or buying a PS3 and expecting it to play Xbox games.

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XenonXZ Member since:
2011-05-25

Well said sir!

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