Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 12th Jan 2012 22:54 UTC
Some people already submitted this news last week, but it wasn't until today that it became official: the FreeBSD team has announced the release of FreeBSD version 9.0. As you may expect from the major version number change, this is releas eis packed with new stuff.
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RE[5]: FSF-like Ideology against GPL
by sbergman27 on Fri 13th Jan 2012 03:53
in reply to "RE[4]: FSF-like Ideology against GPL"
Member since:2005-07-24
Can you play the linked video? If so, what obscure codec did you install to allow it?
Regarding your silly distinction between kernel and OS, that's a classic FSF double-talk ploy. Linux distros have never been very good at dealing with the variety of codecs out there. And much of it is not that they can't do it, but that many of them won't. The more aligned they are with FSF the less likely it is that they will be able to play any particular video without a lot of fiddling by the end user. Denying that obvious fact doesn't help the situation.
I will ask you again, for emphasis. Can you play the video? And if so, what did you have to do to play it?
RE[6]: FSF-like Ideology against GPL
by tuma324 on Fri 13th Jan 2012 04:10
in reply to "RE[5]: FSF-like Ideology against GPL"
Member since:2010-04-09
Can you play the linked video? If so, what obscure codec did you install to allow it?
Regarding your silly distinction between kernel and OS, that's a classic FSF double-talk ploy. Linux distros have never been very good at dealing with the variety of codecs out there. And much of it is not that they can't do it, but that many of them won't. The more aligned they are with FSF the less likely it is that they will be able to play any particular video without a lot of fiddling by the end user. Denying that obvious fact doesn't help the situation.
I will ask you again, for emphasis. Can you play the video? And if so, what did you have to do to play it?
Regarding your silly distinction between kernel and OS, that's a classic FSF double-talk ploy. Linux distros have never been very good at dealing with the variety of codecs out there. And much of it is not that they can't do it, but that many of them won't. The more aligned they are with FSF the less likely it is that they will be able to play any particular video without a lot of fiddling by the end user. Denying that obvious fact doesn't help the situation.
I will ask you again, for emphasis. Can you play the video? And if so, what did you have to do to play it?
I've tried playing it and it works with MPlayer, VLC and ffplay, it also works with any other player and distro I try.
Your problem is called PEBKAC.
Edited 2012-01-13 04:26 UTC
RE[6]: FSF-like Ideology against GPL
by Valhalla on Fri 13th Jan 2012 04:19
in reply to "RE[5]: FSF-like Ideology against GPL"
Member since:2006-01-24
Can you play the linked video? If so, what obscure codec did you install to allow it?
Both the .mov and .mp4 played perfectly in VLC 1.1.13 and MPlayer on my Arch Linux system.
That said it's about the codecs, afaik VLC relies on ffmpeg and as such it depends on what codecs your distribution enables by default in ffmpeg which in turn depends on how they percieve the threath of patents. Arch linux has a pretty much anything goes attitude and generally enables patented tech (codecs, 3d) but it's also a volunteer driven distro and likely not a target for patent infringement suits.
Still every distro I've come across has the option available for the user to explicitly enable patented tech (often all you have to do is enable a repo) so it's not a big problem.
RE[6]: FSF-like Ideology against GPL
by 0brad0 on Fri 13th Jan 2012 05:27
in reply to "RE[5]: FSF-like Ideology against GPL"
Member since:2007-05-05
Can you play the linked video? If so, what obscure codec did you install to allow it?
Regarding your silly distinction between kernel and OS, that's a classic FSF double-talk ploy. Linux distros have never been very good at dealing with the variety of codecs out there. And much of it is not that they can't do it, but that many of them won't. The more aligned they are with FSF the less likely it is that they will be able to play any particular video without a lot of fiddling by the end user. Denying that obvious fact doesn't help the situation.
I will ask you again, for emphasis. Can you play the video? And if so, what did you have to do to play it?
Regarding your silly distinction between kernel and OS, that's a classic FSF double-talk ploy. Linux distros have never been very good at dealing with the variety of codecs out there. And much of it is not that they can't do it, but that many of them won't. The more aligned they are with FSF the less likely it is that they will be able to play any particular video without a lot of fiddling by the end user. Denying that obvious fact doesn't help the situation.
I will ask you again, for emphasis. Can you play the video? And if so, what did you have to do to play it?
Yes I can and I didn't install anything. It just worked. The video is using H.264.
It's not silly. It is reality. Linux is a kernel. Red Hat, Debian, SuSE, etc. are Operating Systems.
Member since:
2007-05-05
Your comment makes no sense and it's also backwards. Last time I checked the kernel isn't a media player.