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FreeBSD Some people already submitted this news last week, but it wasn't until today that it became official: the FreeBSD team has announced the release of FreeBSD version 9.0. As you may expect from the major version number change, this is releas eis packed with new stuff.
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sbergman27
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2005-07-24

it has nothing to do with 'loving' or 'hating' anything

The hate I'm observing here lies within the GNU camp. And I must say, after being away from OSNews for a while... I'm shocked. Not that things were all sunshine and roses in the old days. But in this thread, at least, it seems even uglier than in the old days. This new crop of GNU zealots are absolutely hateful. But they don't even confront people publicly. They just sit in the shadows and silently mod thoughtful posts down.

We don't seem to have private messaging on OSNews any more. So the public forum will have to do. I note that you seem to have moved. Last we spoke, I believe you had just been through the earthquake. Hope all is well with you.

-Steve

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Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

But in this thread, at least, it seems even uglier than in the old days.

And you are as usual one of the ugliest, you complain about GNU zelots hating when you are in fact someone who has a long record here on OSNews of making hateful posts against FSF and Mozilla.

You are exactly that which you complain about, so if OSNews has become worse since you were away, then certainly even worse now that you are back.

And don't even start with the 'modding down' crap, 52% of your 1923 comment votes have been done to mod a comment down. Again you are truly the problem which you pretend to despise.

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Wow. Take a chill pill before you have a brain hemorrhage. It really makes me wonder if all the effort I've put in at work to promote Linux has been for the good. It certainly would have been easier and more lucrative to go with the flow and support Windows instead.

If I took your brand of drivel seriously (which I don't) I'd probably just give in to the pressure and move my hundred users to Windows desktops running against 2008 Server and be done with it.

But I don't because I realize that the fanatics here on OSNews just don't matter in the real world. But watching the passion is absolutely fascinating.

Go forth and froth some more.

-Steve

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

The hate I'm observing here lies within the GNU camp. And I must say, after being away from OSNews for a while... I'm shocked. Not that things were all sunshine and roses in the old days. But in this thread, at least, it seems even uglier than in the old days. This new crop of GNU zealots are absolutely hateful. But they don't even confront people publicly. They just sit in the shadows and silently mod thoughtful posts down.

We don't seem to have private messaging on OSNews any more. So the public forum will have to do. I note that you seem to have moved. Last we spoke, I believe you had just been through the earthquake. Hope all is well with you.


Meh for me I come here occasionally, make a post then bugger off for a few days then come back to see if there is any more interesting news that I might be interested in. The fact that people make claims that a project makes a decision based on 'love' or 'hate' really shows how disconnected they are from these projects and the fact that those making the decision do so on the basis of something pragmatic and reasonable and not emotionally drive.

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

and the fact that those making the decision do so on the basis of something pragmatic and reasonable and not emotionally drive.

I'll add (and feel perfectly free to disagree) that a little idealism injected into the decision-making process is often a good thing, as long as it is balanced against the range of other responsibilities.

It's no secret that I believe in Linux. (I choose those words carefully. The passion is there.) But I also have responsibilities to my customers, and must be careful not to betray the trust by pounding a round peg into a square hole simply based upon my own enthusiasm.

Very often I have a situation where Windows, or some other proprietary software package, might be a quick fix for this or that. And I have to put on my thinking cap, and sometimes even dream about the problem for a few nights, before I come up with a solution which I truly feel is better for the long term. And I might have to hustle up and give time away for free to make it happen. Because management would not always be interested in my view of the long term, and need my solution to make sense in the short term. But I don't mind.

And then... there are those times that I'm beaten... I lose... or maybe I'm just too tired to put in the extra work. There are times that I can't come up with an alternative solution which would not be of a 'round peg in a square hole' nature. At which point, my unpleasant choice is clear.

It's not always easy to balance responsibilities well enough that past decisions don't keep you up at night.

And I suspect that Free OS developers face the same kinds of issues, in this vein, as do admins.

Edited 2012-01-13 17:59 UTC

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