Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 13th Jan 2012 16:20 UTC, submitted by moondevil
And so the war on general computing continues. Were you looking forward to ARM laptops and maybe even desktops now that Windows 8 will also be released for ARM? I personally was, because I'd much rather have a thin, but fast and economical machine than a beastly Intel PC. Sadly, it turns out that all our fears regarding UEFI's Secure Boot feature were justified: Microsoft prohibits OEMs from allowing you to install anything other than Windows 8 on ARM devices (the Software Freedom Law Center has more).
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RE: This is a wide brush kind of thing.
by lucas_maximus on Fri 13th Jan 2012 19:01
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Long term, I think they will. I think the cat is out of the barn, and there will be solid, appealing ARM hardware for the alternate OS market. Not just raw boards like Beagle Board or Raspberry Pi. But complete "white box" tablets and ultra/net/notebooks and settops. The vertical market will still want access to this kind of hardware and won't want to jump through the hoops to live in the walled gardens of MS and Apple.
They will and they will sell it as a feature. While most people on here will be "OMG the M$ evils" some businesses will make an effort and target the niche.
In fact you will probably get a accurate number of those support alternate operating systems because they will be buying these devices.
RE: This is a wide brush kind of thing.
by lemur2 on Sat 14th Jan 2012 00:56
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Linux et al has been riding on the coattails of Windows for its entire life. Linux was viable because it was pretty much compatible (mod drivers) with the hardware that was being built for Windows. As Linux became more popular, more direct support showed up in terms of drivers, etc.
Back In The Day, the rallying cry around something new was "does it run Linux". Well, for the moment, for hardware designed to run W8 on ARM, the answer is "no".
Whether the manufacturers will be able to create similar boards without the secure boot system, or alternate secure boot systems, will be an interesting question. Followed by will they bother at all.
Long term, I think they will. I think the cat is out of the barn, and there will be solid, appealing ARM hardware for the alternate OS market. Not just raw boards like Beagle Board or Raspberry Pi. But complete "white box" tablets and ultra/net/notebooks and settops. The vertical market will still want access to this kind of hardware and won't want to jump through the hoops to live in the walled gardens of MS and Apple.
Back In The Day, the rallying cry around something new was "does it run Linux". Well, for the moment, for hardware designed to run W8 on ARM, the answer is "no".
Whether the manufacturers will be able to create similar boards without the secure boot system, or alternate secure boot systems, will be an interesting question. Followed by will they bother at all.
Long term, I think they will. I think the cat is out of the barn, and there will be solid, appealing ARM hardware for the alternate OS market. Not just raw boards like Beagle Board or Raspberry Pi. But complete "white box" tablets and ultra/net/notebooks and settops. The vertical market will still want access to this kind of hardware and won't want to jump through the hoops to live in the walled gardens of MS and Apple.
WTF? This is a very peculiar outlook. I would almost call it history revisionism.
Put it this way: everywhere in computing other than the x86 desktop/laptop PC, Linux dominates. An ordinary person might "run" say two copies of Windows on their home desktop and laptop, but perhaps six copies of Linux in their router, on their TV, their DVD player, their smartphone, their NAS device and their printer. Web services which they may use which run on very large computing arrays, such as Google/Youtube, Wikipedia or Facebook all run on Linux.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/facebook-work-nuts-bolts-technology-ex...
Facebook uses a variety of services, tools, and programming languages to make up its core infrastructure. At the front end, their servers run a LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP) stack with Memcache.
http://gizmodo.com/5854207/heres-facebooks-massive-arctic-server-fa...
BTW, a good approach to supplying power for massive Linux server farms such as these would be to run ARM servers rather than x86 servers.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/02/hp-and-calxedas-moonshot-arm-ser...
So, anyway, exactly how on earth is Linux supposed to be "riding on Windows coattails"?
Edited 2012-01-14 01:10 UTC
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Basically, they're trying to ensure the "walled garden" experience in the tablet and PDA market. The walled garden experience isn't limited just to the the users, but to developer as well. For example, developers in walled gardens (in theory) don't have to worry so much about DRM etc., because it comes with the platform. (How effective it is is a different discussion).
So, this is the mechanism to try and keep some manufacturer from coming out with a "rootable" tablet that lets folks get to the soft, creamy center of these "hardened" devices.
Linux et al has been riding on the coattails of Windows for its entire life. Linux was viable because it was pretty much compatible (mod drivers) with the hardware that was being built for Windows. As Linux became more popular, more direct support showed up in terms of drivers, etc.
Back In The Day, the rallying cry around something new was "does it run Linux". Well, for the moment, for hardware designed to run W8 on ARM, the answer is "no".
Whether the manufacturers will be able to create similar boards without the secure boot system, or alternate secure boot systems, will be an interesting question. Followed by will they bother at all.
Long term, I think they will. I think the cat is out of the barn, and there will be solid, appealing ARM hardware for the alternate OS market. Not just raw boards like Beagle Board or Raspberry Pi. But complete "white box" tablets and ultra/net/notebooks and settops. The vertical market will still want access to this kind of hardware and won't want to jump through the hoops to live in the walled gardens of MS and Apple.