Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 14th Jan 2012 21:11 UTC
Legal "Three weeks ago the 23-year-old UK-based administrator of a TV show and movie links site was arrested by police. The site, referred to only as TVShack, could be one of three domains of which two are already controlled by the US government after their seizure as part of Operation in Our Sites. Following his detention in the UK's largest prison, the admin is now fighting his extradition to the U.S. with the help of Gary McKinnon's lawyer." His site only linked; it did not host. The most damning point is that he was found not guilty under UK law. So, does this mean The Netherlands can request extradition of, say, Rick Santorum for his blatant anti-homosexual remarks, which are illegal under Dutch law? That would be fun.
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RE[6]: Santorum
by unclefester on Sun 15th Jan 2012 03:53 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Santorum"
unclefester
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May I suggest that you read about Dr. Martin Luther King's approach to dealing with bigotry and injustice? His birthday is 15 January. No better time to learn that being persistently honorable and of high character is better than merely being an ugly bully.

Just a thought.


King was a drunkard, a womaniser (with a penchant for white prostitutes) and an absolute buffoon. All his foibles were fully documented by the FBI with wire taps and photographs.

King's doctoral thesis and most of his speeches were also heavily plagiarised.

The civil rights movements success is mostly due to the fact that the Democrat party in the 1960s was actively courting the minority and left wing vote. Minorities should thank JFK and Lyndon Johnston rather than King for any improvements.

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RE[7]: Santorum
by unclefester on Sun 15th Jan 2012 05:06 in reply to "RE[6]: Santorum"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

I may also add that Mahatma Gandhi was a notorious pedophile. He also hated Black (African) people and generally supported the Indian caste system. Again this is all fully documented.

We should never make heroes of mere mortals.

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RE[8]: Santorum
by Soulbender on Sun 15th Jan 2012 10:44 in reply to "RE[7]: Santorum"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

I may also add that Mahatma Gandhi was a notorious pedophile.


The only support for this argument I can find is a Penn and Teller episode (that I havent watched).

We should never make heroes of mere mortals.


Or believe everything you see on TV.
Btw, who should we make heroes of if not mere mortals? Imaginary persons? The only real heroes are mortals.

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RE[7]: Santorum
by ctl_alt_del on Sun 15th Jan 2012 05:07 in reply to "RE[6]: Santorum"
ctl_alt_del Member since:
2006-05-14

Actually, a higher percentage of Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats.

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RE[8]: Santorum
by unclefester on Sun 15th Jan 2012 08:47 in reply to "RE[7]: Santorum"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

Actually, a higher percentage of Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats.


The Republicans had been the traditional political party for Black voters since the Civil War. However the Democrats could see the advantage of recruiting minority voters via the civil rights movement and other progressive policies. The result is that most electorates with significant Black populations are now strongly aligned to the Democrats.

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RE[8]: Santorum
by zima on Sun 15th Jan 2012 12:32 in reply to "RE[7]: Santorum"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Actually, a higher percentage of Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats.

Half a century ago...

I really, really have no idea why people think party labels (all ways) from half a century ago have any real sort of relevance now.
(and often done by the same people who, in another sentence, lament how politicians care only about too short time-scales, hm)

It's a disconnect of essentially 3+ generations by now. Vast majority of those people are DEAD. And it doesn't require too many years for quite major political overhauls (think Weimar Republic + 20 years, for example)


What is now a major party in my parliament (sometimes the biggest party - also in the times of negotiations & accession to NATO or EU, during opening years of present Afghanistan War, or when deciding to participate in the last invasion of Iraq) was, half a century ago, the Party (as in... communist regime). Red is still their official colour FFS (OK, how half of our flag it red makes this easier, still...)

1.5 decade ago most of the parties in my parliament didn't even really exist.

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RE[8]: Santorum
by marcus0263 on Sun 15th Jan 2012 17:11 in reply to "RE[7]: Santorum"
marcus0263 Member since:
2007-06-02

Actually, a higher percentage of Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats.


Just goes to show how far the GOP has fallen, remember this from Mr. Conservative himself Barry Goldwater -

"If they succeed in establishing religion as a basic Republican Party tenet, they could do us in."

"When you say 'radical right' today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye."

Seems it has come true ....

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RE[8]: Santorum
by marcus0263 on Sun 15th Jan 2012 17:15 in reply to "RE[7]: Santorum"
marcus0263 Member since:
2007-06-02

Actually, a higher percentage of Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats.


Todays Republican Party is no longer a Conservative Party.

Remember what Mr. Conservative himself Barry Goldwater said -

"If they succeed in establishing religion as a basic Republican Party tenet, they could do us in."

"When you say 'radical right' today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye."

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