Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Jan 2012 00:14 UTC, submitted by Elv13
Hardware, Embedded Systems "Raspberry Pis started being made a couple of days ago, but I was forbidden to tell you about it until signed contracts and receipts for payment had arrived - it's been killing me, especially since I've had tens of you asking me when manufacturing would start every day for the last few weeks. I am not good at keeping secrets." No more secrets to keep, Liz! I can't wait to place my order.
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RE[14]: Subtext
by sbergman27 on Sun 15th Jan 2012 17:05 UTC in reply to "RE[13]: Subtext"
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I think we need to make a distinction between "education" and "degree".

I haven't paid a penny for my continuing education the last few years. Though I really do need to start donating something to the Universities' projects which have so benefited me. A *degree* is expensive. An *education* needn't cost anything but the monthly cost of an Internet connection. Even a modem or shared connection will do, along with some motivation and patience. The lectures are generally both streaming and downloadable.

You get most everything that the students paying to attend the course get. Except for office hours consultations, and the academic credit, itself. Many of the Universities even provide study group forums, which facilitate the interaction between students' minds which can be of such value.

Degrees are nice. I have one, from 24 years ago. Although last I looked, the diploma is still at the bottom of my sock drawer. (Never did get around to having it framed.) But an education is *far* more important than a degree. A degree is something you get for utilitarian purposes. Like a waffle iron, in a way. The value of an education transcends such mundane considerations. If you do the degree right, it does come with an education. But the two are still distinct.

If I had to choose between either the diploma or my access to all of these wonderful educational resources we have today, I'd give up the diploma in a minute. (Most of that knowledge is outdated anyway.)

I would particularly recommend MIT's "Scholar" series of courses. With those, MIT is really taking the next step to turn something that started out rather "catch as catch can" into a more formal curriculum, with a suggested process, and all the customized materials, very clearly laid out.


Edited 2012-01-15 17:20 UTC

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RE[15]: Subtext
by Alfman on Mon 16th Jan 2012 04:27 in reply to "RE[14]: Subtext"
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"I think we need to make a distinction between 'education' and 'degree'"

Of course I know the difference. When I said that CS skills could be learned at home - I did mean it literally. If one is able to get a decent job that doesn't require a degree and/or several years experience in the industry, then that's great.

Back on the topic of youth education though, which is what you cited as dropping, I don't think on-line materials make a good substitute for grade school. Lack of funding will impede their education even with the availability of on-line materials.

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