Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th Jan 2012 00:09 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes ...and we're back. Like so many other sites on the web, OSNews joined the worldwide protest against the Stop Online Piracy Act and the PROTECT-IP Act, which threaten to end free speech, economic innovation, privacy, and the free exchange of information on the web. I don't wish to waste too many words on our participation, so consider this item as a sort of comment lightening rod to make sure that when the next story is posted, we can focus fully on its topic. Update: DC seems to be getting the message the internet sent today.
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RE[2]: Porn
by Hiev on Thu 19th Jan 2012 04:12 UTC in reply to "RE: Porn"
Hiev
Member since:
2005-09-27

But the goverment has the responsability to make the work of the parents easier and not harder. So your excuse is lame.

Edited 2012-01-19 04:13 UTC

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RE[3]: Porn
by lemur2 on Thu 19th Jan 2012 04:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Porn"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

But the goverment has the responsability to make the work of the parents easier and not harder. So your excuse is lame.


In Australia for a number of years the Government sponsored a program where they offered Internet filtering software to any parents who asked for it, for free.

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Australian_government_to_provide_Intern...

"Thursday, June 22, 2006

Australian Minister for Communications, Information Technology and the Arts Senator Helen Coonan announced on Wednesday that the federal government would be spending AUD$116.6 million on a package of measures to protect Australians from inappropriate material on the Internet. Dubbed "Protecting Families Online", the package includes free filtering software for all families."


Hardly anyone took up this offer. The government couldn't give it away.

It turns out, strangely enough, that people don't want to censor themselves ... all they really want is to be able to stop other people from having access to stuff.

Funny, that.

Anyway, it was only after the dismal failure of voluntary Internet Filtering in Australia that the government proposed mandatory Internet Filtering. That proposal met with such fierce public disapproval that the government was forced to drop it.

Edited 2012-01-19 04:48 UTC

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RE[4]: Porn
by Hiev on Thu 19th Jan 2012 13:18 in reply to "RE[3]: Porn"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

And if because it "failed" in Australia it will fail in the rest of the world.

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RE[3]: Porn
by umccullough on Thu 19th Jan 2012 05:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Porn"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

But the goverment has the responsability to make the work of the parents easier and not harder. So your excuse is lame.


WTF?

I don't want the government helping me raise my kids WHATSOEVER... keep them out of it!

Edited 2012-01-19 05:14 UTC

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RE[4]: Porn
by Hiev on Thu 19th Jan 2012 13:20 in reply to "RE[3]: Porn"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

The goverment is already helping you to rise your kids dummy, all those public schools, all those laws, you know whay are there for? So, make some valid arguments.

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RE[4]: Porn
by zima on Thu 26th Jan 2012 23:01 in reply to "RE[3]: Porn"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

He has some point, in general. I mean - everything a gov does should be, optimally, to make your life easier, overall. Raising offspring being kinda big part of a typical life... (ultimately, it essentially boils down to it)

And most of their (diverse*) activities do help you raise your children (*say, from paraded "national security" - also the perks it brings, energy or resource security for example - to safety brought by environmental control and such; or diverse life-easing regulation: car-related of various kinds, building codes, food safety, no child labor, medical)

Nearby in the sub-thread you write:

You assume I actually use public schools (admittedly, I do, but I didn't always...

Oh but you always did. Just by living in any half-decent place (and/or reaping the opportunities it gives) you use public schooling - that's what prevents any place to be filled to a too high degree by total morons, that's what makes for a reasonably decent & functional modern society. Virtually all (if not simply all; would be tedious to make sure / rare outliers wouldn't change anything) livable societies had set up public educational systems in the process - that's not a coincidence.

And sure, you might think that in some areas you have somewhat better ideas about how to best make use of the limited time to guide the next generation (and you might be even correct!).
But then... most people seem to think that - even if, in reality, they are quite neglecting or even harmful towards their kids (that is the level at which educational systems aim, societal dynamics; not the very few kids under relatively rare parent who genuinely cares)

Edited 2012-01-26 23:17 UTC

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RE[3]: Porn
by Laurence on Thu 19th Jan 2012 09:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Porn"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

But the goverment has the responsability to make the work of the parents easier and not harder. So your excuse is lame.

They government are not making it harder though. To do that the government would have to proactively create legislation making it easier to download porn.

In fact, I'd argue that inaction is actually more beneficial as SOPA (et al) wouldn't prevent your kids from getting porn online - it would just push such sites further underground where it's harder to monitor. One of the benefits of having everything in the open is that everything can also be monitored and thus better controlled against the few case scenarios that warrant censoring (ie your kids from porn)

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