Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Jan 2012 23:40 UTC, submitted by DrillSgt
Internet & Networking Supposedly we've won today. Both the PROTECT-IP Act in the Senate and the Stop Online Piracy Act in the House of Representatives have been shelved by their respective sponsors. However, these acts have been shelved before, and the bags of money sent to DC didn't suddenly devalue, so I'm sure the next SOPA is being written as we speak. What did make me happy, though, was Neelie Kroes: the EU commissioner for the digital agenda has unambiguously distanced herself from SOPA, which she calls "bad legislation". Obama, the next time you want to make a statement with teeth, just wait for Kroes to do it for you.
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RE[2]: Boids and Girds.
by ParadoxUncreated on Mon 23rd Jan 2012 08:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Boids and Girds."
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StephenBeDoper.. ;) lol. Why are talking to me?

Ok, so this guy is your god, and the crowd is ignored, and his arguments define the whole thing.

What I usually do if I find myself in a crowd of people I don`t sympathize with, is that I remove myself.

However here I am supposed to be in this crowd because of .. Michale Geist. The one example that changed the world.

Well ok, I know that some people do actually change the world. I just spendt some time discussing with atheists and their oxymoron "random coherence", trying to make that obviously an error, by logical explanations, they did not listen. Instead I had "no meaning" "no significance in the universe" etc etc.
Ofcoures MICHAL GEIST has significance in the universe. Funny how atheists talk against themselves allmost all the time. You are that aren`t you Dopy, since you attacked me here before? I mean just deviant atheists/gays do that.

The first thing I see on Michael Geists website is "my website went dark tyesterday". Could you atleast link to a relevant post on his site?

And no I don`t consider a statement about blacking out, very relevant to why sopa is good or bad.

You know usually what I do is look at the crowd. If there is a crowd of quite good and moral, monotheistic people, I am inclined to be interested, as I see these as my own people.

If the crowd is as I said, people who talk about how bad it is if their video that infringes on rights, goes down, because it was popular, and the artists deserve nothing, and popularity it supposed to go to the infringer instead, well, that is gonna be stamped as the lamest possible in my book.

Not people I support, want to be seen with or have any sympathy with.

PS: Beware of not-that-interested-so-typing-fast-and-with-errors-shaytan.

Edited 2012-01-23 08:37 UTC

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RE[3]: Boids and Girds.
by ParadoxUncreated on Mon 23rd Jan 2012 09:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Boids and Girds."
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Btw I looked at his article in Toronto Star too.

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Lol, wikipedia went down. AAH good I am thinking let people find other alternatives. The lameness of many of the editers there is excruciatingly annoying for us on the cutting edge of research, who cannot post there, unless it gets deleted.

So you will always have to deal with old and "accepted" knowledge there, and never grow. Stay with the atheist claiming absurd properties for radnomness. Well atleast he is on his way out, with quantum consciousness. But science wont be right until they accept and understand that the only logical possiblity is GOD, as creator and only force behind everything, and something they cannot tamper with.

Craigslist went down too.. Again, not a site I have a very good impression of. Seems very poor design wise. Any of us used to design from the demoscene of amiga days, knows that effective and beautiful design can be combined, and unforunately the art seemed to get lost on windows, and later on the internet, and I cannot feel other than that they are eons behind. Which is ofcourse not just related to craigslist, but I have no good impression of it.

He makes some kind of fuss about sopa targeting IP adresses.
I saw someone claiming the facebook might go down, because of sopa.

I don`t think sopa was meant for facebook, or any similar site, or youtube either. As they are sites that are not about piracy. But sites like wareztorrents.org etc, will ofcourse go down.

If ofcourse facebook and youtube would disappear because of it, it would be a bit strange, I don`t think these laws were wanted because of that. I don`t think they were meant to be used nonsensically.

Even if facebook, and youtube should go down, what then? Gee, I`m gonna have to go out or something. *PANIC PANIC* STOP SOPA NOW!!!!! (lol)

No seriously. And ofcourse then you have EURABIA coming on all sides too. Lol, no more booze and whoring. *panic panic* join EDL now.

Nah, you know what I think? There is a lot of lame arguments, mainy done on the internet, without much identity, that probably would not do this, IRL. Once one of the online newspapers here changed to facebook comments, most of the deviance went away. Threats went away, comments going way over the line, went away.

And back was the usual noise, for instance, when I discuss Islam, and it`s positive aspects, someone USUALLY makes a comment about pedofilia, about murder, about this or that, that is completely out of line with Islamic morality. But you know, if you sit out there in that noise, having that trash in your head, how the hell are you making a valid choice on anything?

Does Michael Geist fear ipsuppression because of SOPA too? No, I think the whole thing is absurd. Some intelligent men disbelieves and is with the beast, because otherwise he is not cool, and enjoys some status as idol, among them.

Unfortunately most people do no posess high intelligence. Few does. But when those few try to cater to the masses, they forget that the masses should follow them instead. And instead become proponents of lesser thought out ideas.

Ofcourse if you have a mind, you see a problem with warez. You see illegality, and injustice. Then again, some programmers are truly f--kwits, and should deserve no money on their software. I do believe however that good software, can only be made by decent people, and that you see with Linux. High quality system, made by a lot of decent people, without some dude being able to harass you and claim idolship because of his software, and be a general nuisance because you have to deal with him, and his software.

So in the end what are you going to do? Atleast OSwise, information could be flowing freely, anyone could participate, and everyone would be happy. We don`t need strong marketforces there, and specialists could ofcourse be hired, to change or alter the software, and then intelligent people could have a job with that, as they deserve.
However as an artist, I do not believe in copyright infringement.
A lot of what I do, I spendt quite a lot of time on, and I have refined my skill to quite a high level. That some retarded joe on the internet, is going to claim being forinstance a collector of my work, and mistreating me on the internet because of it, etc. Ofcourse I want trash like that stopped. I want to make a living of what I do. That is the only way more can be produced. Etc. And I have also contributed some software to the linux community, and feel that is ok. If your only skill is programming, it gets a bit hard to say who did what, and make money on that, in linux. But that might be possible aswell. A completely online system, with a linux-distribution, that recognizes the efforts made, by who, and makes some kind of percentage, out of sold distributions online.
But heeey you say then, wouldn`t that make lameridiotprogrammer bloat the whole system, to gain more percentages, well yeah. So forget about that I guess.
LOL.
No atleast we see some small changes that can be done, and should be done. No need to change everything.
Society evolves and iterates to perfection, based on the human soul.

PS: I just very quickly dumped some of my thoughts down in this post, I really do not take much effort with online communication these days. Nobody seems to get it anyway.

So peace be with you. May the blessings and praises of God be with you, in realization of the perfect nature of God and soul, and his universe and creation.

Praised be God, The We, the mind that is nowhere, that consciously creates everything, and therefore is present behind everything, observing and knowing well what he creates and arranges, and therefore "omnipresent"

Praised be First Paradox, the fundamental principle, that ultimately does as it wishes.

PEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEE. (now you can complain about caps/repeater and completely miss out the point of enjoying your life)

Edited 2012-01-23 09:19 UTC

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RE[4]: Boids and Girds.
by StephenBeDoper on Mon 23rd Jan 2012 14:33 in reply to "RE[3]: Boids and Girds."
StephenBeDoper Member since:
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So peace be with you. May the blessings and praises of God be with you, in realization of the perfect nature of God and soul, and his universe and creation.

Praised be God, The We, the mind that is nowhere, that consciously creates everything, and therefore is present behind everything, observing and knowing well what he creates and arranges, and therefore "omnipresent"

Praised be First Paradox, the fundamental principle, that ultimately does as it wishes.


Oh, I see, you've apparently confused OSNews.com with TimeCube.com. Now excuse me as I smile, nod, and back away slowly (a reaction that you're accustomed to, no doubt).

Edited 2012-01-23 14:33 UTC

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RE[3]: Boids and Girds.
by StephenBeDoper on Mon 23rd Jan 2012 14:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Boids and Girds."
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

StephenBeDoper.. ;) lol. Why are talking to me?


When you post a comment on a public forum, other people can (and often do) post replies. Welcome to the Internet.

Funny how atheists talk against themselves allmost all the time. You are that aren`t you Dopy, since you attacked me here before? I mean just deviant atheists/gays do that.


...okay then, thank you for making it unambiguously clear that you're either trolling, have serious difficulties reading for comprehension, or are merely incapable of civil, adult discourse. And I certainly wouldn't rule out the possiblity that it's equal measures of all 3.

You know usually what I do is look at the crowd. If there is a crowd of quite good and moral, monotheistic people, I am inclined to be interested, as I see these as my own people.


Yes, wouldn't want any nasty dissenting opinions to ruin the acoustics of your echo chamber.

If the crowd is as I said, people who talk about how bad it is if their video that infringes on rights, goes down, because it was popular, and the artists deserve nothing, and popularity it supposed to go to the infringer instead, well, that is gonna be stamped as the lamest possible in my book.


In other words, you've reduced the for/against SOPA debate to a false dichotomy by trying to paint all all opponents of SOPA as people who just want to to infringe with impunity. But still, thank you for reminding me of why it's bad idea enter into debate with anyone who thinks that "lol" is punctuation.

Have a nice day.

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