Linked by lemur2 on Thu 26th Jan 2012 22:42 UTC
KDE KDE has announced its latest set of releases, providing major updates to KDE Plasma Workspaces, KDE Applications, and the KDE Platform. Version 4.8 provides many new features, and improved stability, performance and dynamic power management.
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RE: Improvements
by lemur2 on Fri 27th Jan 2012 05:08 UTC in reply to "Improvements"
lemur2
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2007-02-17

Really glad to see stability and performance improvements listed as a goal in 4.8. I just wish they would dedicate a single release ONLY to stability and performance. Freeze all features and just concentrate on making the ones they already have work well without crashing or bogging down the system.


KDE already works perfectly well without crashing or bogging down the system.

It is just that KDE SC 4.8 does an even better job in this regard than previous releases did.

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RE[2]: Improvements
by saynte on Fri 27th Jan 2012 06:08 in reply to "RE: Improvements"
saynte Member since:
2007-12-10

Your statement contradicts the KDE developers; clearly there was some code that was "boggin down the system" in some cases.

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RE[3]: Improvements
by lemur2 on Fri 27th Jan 2012 07:31 in reply to "RE[2]: Improvements"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Your statement contradicts the KDE developers; clearly there was some code that was "boggin down the system" in some cases.


Indeed there was. The new code will be faster.

This does not mean that the previous code was unacceptably slow or overly bogged down. It wasn't ... KDE has been perfectly useable and more than acceptably fast and snappy for some time now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKII7Yb75XE

Kubuntu 11.10: "Right off the bat the first thing I noticed is that it is extremely snappy. Really, really snappy and responds extremely well. I was pretty impressed with just how smooth everything was."

Edited 2012-01-27 07:35 UTC

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v RE[2]: Improvements
by Slambert666 on Fri 27th Jan 2012 07:34 in reply to "RE: Improvements"
RE[3]: Improvements
by lemur2 on Fri 27th Jan 2012 07:38 in reply to "RE[2]: Improvements"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

maybe you think that "crashing or bogging down the system" is the normal behavior so you don't recognize it as such?


What exactly is the point of lying about how extremely fast, snappy and responsive that KDE has become now?

It doesn't crash either. What is wrong with you? What is your agenda, exactly, to disparage the hard work and great success of KDE developers?

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RE[3]: Improvements
by Soulbender on Fri 27th Jan 2012 08:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Improvements"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

or maybe it's because it doesn't? I haven't had any stability problems with kde4 for a long time now. Heck, I even have a 7 year old laptop (768Mb RAM) that runs it reasonably well. The only program I can remember crashing is Rekonq and it does indeed crash a bit more often than it should.

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RE[2]: Improvements
by nej_simon on Fri 27th Jan 2012 08:38 in reply to "RE: Improvements"
nej_simon Member since:
2011-02-11

I don't agree. Every time I've tried various versions of KDE 4 they have been a bit glitchy and slow. I hope 4.8 is better.

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RE[3]: Improvements
by lemur2 on Fri 27th Jan 2012 08:44 in reply to "RE[2]: Improvements"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

I don't agree. Every time I've tried various versions of KDE 4 they have been a bit glitchy and slow. I hope 4.8 is better.


KDE4 is not at all glitchy or slow on the vast majority of systems (millions upon millions of them).

If you are running the exact same KDE4 code as everyone else is on their systems, and it is not at all glitchy or slow for them but it is for you, then clearly this must be due to some area where your system is different to all these others.

Hence your system's problem is not in KDE4 itself. It probably lies somewhere in the drivers.

Edited 2012-01-27 08:48 UTC

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RE[2]: Improvements
by tanishaj on Fri 27th Jan 2012 15:39 in reply to "RE: Improvements"
tanishaj Member since:
2010-12-22


KDE already works perfectly well without crashing or bogging down the system.

It is just that KDE SC 4.8 does an even better job in this regard than previous releases did.


I do not use KDE so I cannot comment on stability. The primary reason that I do not use it though is because I find it bogs down my system. It is easily the heaviest of the desktops (eg. KDE, GNOME, XFCE, LXDE, Enlightenment, stand-alone WMs). I have tried every version up until 4.7. I will give 4.8 a try as well at some point.

I am glad it works for you but, given the relative performance of KDE, I do not think that you can objectively call it snappy.

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RE[3]: Improvements
by lemur2 on Sat 28th Jan 2012 04:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Improvements"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"KDE already works perfectly well without crashing or bogging down the system.

It is just that KDE SC 4.8 does an even better job in this regard than previous releases did.


I do not use KDE so I cannot comment on stability. The primary reason that I do not use it though is because I find it bogs down my system. It is easily the heaviest of the desktops (eg. KDE, GNOME, XFCE, LXDE, Enlightenment, stand-alone WMs). I have tried every version up until 4.7. I will give 4.8 a try as well at some point.

I am glad it works for you but, given the relative performance of KDE, I do not think that you can objectively call it snappy.
"

I posted the objective evidence here:

http://www.osnews.com/permalink?504838

Kubuntu 11.10: "Right off the bat the first thing I noticed is that it is extremely snappy. Really, really snappy and responds extremely well. I was pretty impressed with just how smooth everything was."

These are not my words, but they do agree with my own experience of Kubuntu 11.10, which uses KDE 4.7.2.

I can indeed call KDE4 snappy. Objectively, I can call it snappy. Extremely snappy and responsive. I agree wholeheartedly with YouTube poster MrGizmo757, KDE4 is indeed "Really, really snappy". There is hard video evidence to prove it.

How "objective" can you get?

You don't believe MrGizmo757, perhaps you think he may have somehow faked it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AIgyGmHH50&feature=related

Perhaps then you should listen to YouTube user delt0delt0 who shows the same conclusion as MrGizmo757.

They both show video of Kubuntu 11.10 running KDE 4.7.2 extremely snappily. If KDE4 itself was broken or bogged down, neither of these videos would be possible to make. Yet there they are.

tanishaj:
"I do not use KDE"


... then you are hardly in a position to make a comment on it, are you?

KDE 4.8 (which is to be used in Kubuntu 12.04 LTS) will be even snappier.

Enjoy, everybody.

Edited 2012-01-28 04:11 UTC

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