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KDE KDE has announced its latest set of releases, providing major updates to KDE Plasma Workspaces, KDE Applications, and the KDE Platform. Version 4.8 provides many new features, and improved stability, performance and dynamic power management.
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RE[4]: Improvements
by Yagami on Sat 28th Jan 2012 11:14 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Improvements"
Yagami
Member since:
2006-07-15

Unfortunatly, i understand where the "kde is not snappy comments come from".

The same KDE release in the same machine, same configurations but :

Funtoo :

Super snappy... its kwin effects gallore ... it feels like it doesnt even use 10% of the video card.

Opensuse ( latest and previous ) :

Super slow ... with compositing enabled is just barelly usable.
I have to use an special user openbuild service X/Mesa/DRM repository to make it "normal" speed.

This "unsnappiness" is completly KDE unrelated, but KDE "karma","fame","opinion" suffers from it

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RE[5]: Improvements
by lemur2 on Sun 29th Jan 2012 06:01 in reply to "RE[4]: Improvements"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Unfortunatly, i understand where the "kde is not snappy comments come from".

The same KDE release in the same machine, same configurations but :

Funtoo :

Super snappy... its kwin effects gallore ... it feels like it doesnt even use 10% of the video card.


"Super snappy" (relative to the performance of other OSes on the same hardware) is a good way to describe KDE4 in my experience.

Opensuse ( latest and previous ) :

Super slow ... with compositing enabled is just barelly usable.
I have to use an special user openbuild service X/Mesa/DRM repository to make it "normal" speed.

This "unsnappiness" is completly KDE unrelated, but KDE "karma","fame","opinion" suffers from it


I haven't tried OpenSuse very much ... it was OK-ish on the one system on which I did try it, but Kubuntu was better on that same system. Because I haven't tried it that much I can't really comment.

However, I wish to say, extensive kudos to you for realising that, since KDE is indeed extremely snappy and responsive on most systems, then wherever it happens that KDE is found to be "unsnappy" it actually has nothing to do with KDE itself.

If KDE itself were slow and bogged down, it would be slow and bogged down everywhere. There could be no systems at all on which it was extremely snappy, as its is normally reported to be in reviews.

It would appear that so very many OSNews readers are completely unable to appreciate this simple point.

... either that, or they do appreciate it, and they just don't want anyone else to.

Edited 2012-01-29 06:03 UTC

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RE[6]: Improvements
by Yagami on Mon 30th Jan 2012 10:28 in reply to "RE[5]: Improvements"
Yagami Member since:
2006-07-15

I do like openSuse though, kudos to them for the great distro.

That said, my thoughts :

* It is something in the graphics department of openSuse. Only gpu/graphics are slow and worse have a little of corruption on them (glitchs sometime appears). I dunno why this happens, simply managing driver and X / Mesa versions is not enough, as opensuse is using a more or less recent X/Mesa/Driver stack.

* Even if its only graphics performance and the rest is very fast ... everything will look horrible slow. No matter how fast the underlying system is running, if displaying / moving / animating a window is slow, it looks like everything is damn slow.

I would really love for openSuse to fix this, as its one of my favorite distros. Problably is something related to my video card model and its rare, so its not getting attention.

In terms of performance and memory usage , KDE is very very good. Actually , since i have a very weird KDE desktop configuration ( systray and menu are on the dashboard ), if kde was slow everything would be ruined ( dashboard does dim screen and blur... and i go there alot of times. if it was slow it would greatly effect my usage ).

Kudos also for the nepomuk and strigi guys. My only grip now is : Why not export tags and ( some , only whats possible ) nepomuk info into files extended attributes. My work and backup partitions are both linux filesystems, so i would never lose any information.

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