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KDE KDE has announced its latest set of releases, providing major updates to KDE Plasma Workspaces, KDE Applications, and the KDE Platform. Version 4.8 provides many new features, and improved stability, performance and dynamic power management.
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RE: Themes
by nunopinheiro on Sat 28th Jan 2012 13:20 UTC in reply to "Themes"
nunopinheiro
Member since:
2007-10-07

Unfortunately, doing themes in Qt, complex one that manage color configuration, animations, shadows, good AA is not trivial stuff... And requires 2 things, Good designers, and better Coders.
Note that Oxygen Is AFIK the only QT, GTK, GTK2 theme that exists, and that loses no reconfigurability or significant features in any of the engines...

Its not the most exiting theme in the world, it was design to last the entire 4.x series, far more than any KDE theme until today. and doing that without becoming annoying or distractive wile pushing the frontiers of what we do and how we arrange apps in KDE.... I must say that I believe Oxygen to be a massive success, Never in KDE history as a theme lasted this long and pleasing so many, and at the same time being so discretely innovative in the amount of things a theme does in OSS.

With the advent of QML and QML components that might change... But don't expect anything revolutionary, in terms of volume of themes, Good configurable themes are still alot of work, specially if they are meant to be colorable..

Soon we will start talking about KDE 5.0 and what needs to be done for that, honestly Wen i started This fantastic experience I said I would only do the 4.x series and im not sure what will happen next, but I hope its something Fantastic.
Overall I'm incredibly happy with of he job we managed to do with a incredible small team of volunteers.

I will keep on working on oxygen several facets up until the last day of its existence.

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RE[2]: Themes
by Hiev on Sat 28th Jan 2012 17:54 in reply to "RE: Themes"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

Oxygen is a good default theme that need polish some rought edges, like IMHO the abuse of rounded corners, the use of rect corners here and there would make it more elegant.

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RE[3]: Themes
by nunopinheiro on Sun 29th Jan 2012 00:21 in reply to "RE[2]: Themes"
nunopinheiro Member since:
2007-10-07

Thank you for that comment. "need polish some rough edges" I agree there is allot of room for improvement...
"like IMHO the abuse of rounded corners" Don't agree there, in the sense of volume, as I see it they can be rounded or not rounded, so all of them rounded or not, some rounded some not would be inconsistent.
A more sharp globally less rounded theme, sure. But not in just some places...
I should note that depending in the dpi of your screen that may vary as they are pixel based, should also note that studies indicate that people feel less comfortable with hard 90 degree angles, so a bit of roundness makes a theme look more #safe" and inviting...

Any way, thank you for the kind comments, and I think i understood what you meent... Globally I agree we need more quality themes with different design pasterns, oxygen is band because it tries to make every one happy, and we can only fail wen trying to do that...

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RE[2]: Themes
by acobar on Sat 28th Jan 2012 20:54 in reply to "RE: Themes"
acobar Member since:
2005-11-15

Even though I use bespin from time to time I must say that I really like the overall default look of KDE4. To me it is by far the best DE of them all. Are there some glitches that should be fixed? Yes, there are. But if I weight all things together nor Windows 7 nor OS X are as good to me, despite both of them be very good too.

Thank you very much for all effort you, the oxygen team and all other developers have put on creating KDE4.

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RE[3]: Themes
by nunopinheiro on Sun 29th Jan 2012 00:12 in reply to "RE[2]: Themes"
nunopinheiro Member since:
2007-10-07

thank you

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RE[2]: Themes
by Luminair on Sun 29th Jan 2012 15:32 in reply to "RE: Themes"
Luminair Member since:
2007-03-30

Unfortunately, doing themes in Qt, complex one that manage color configuration, animations, shadows, good AA is not trivial stuff... And requires 2 things, Good designers, and better Coders.


Well that explains why there are so few passable KDE themes. (only one?)

An open source desktop should have artists flocking to it to create. Does KDE?

Unfortunately for KDE, being a good artist is not enough. You've explained something the KDE team screwed up. Themes so difficult to create that only the original theme ninja can do it.

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