Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 1st Feb 2012 22:24 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless How many N9's did Nokia sell, and how many Lumias did Nokia sell? It's an interesting thing to ponder, because estimates by Tomi T. Ahonen seem to indicate that, despite decidedly undermarketing the thing, the N9 faired considerably better in the marketplace than the Lumia did.
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RE: Is it really true?
by cyrilleberger on Thu 2nd Feb 2012 08:05 UTC in reply to "Is it really true?"
cyrilleberger
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2006-02-01

Because the decision to switch to Windows Phone was taken in 2010 before hiring Elop, by the board. Think about it, why would Nokia hire the boss of the business division at Microsoft, someone who has zero experience in running a hardware company or a mobile business ? There can be only one reason, they had already decided to go with windows phone at that time, and they needed someone to work the deal with Microsoft, that someone was Elop.

To remove Elop and change Nokia's strategy (once again) it would require for the board to acknowledge its own mistakes, which is something very difficult for most humans. They are likely to keep trying with the current strategy until the shareholders meeting later that year, where the board will sacrifice Elop to save their ass and turn themselves to be an Android OEM shop.

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RE[2]: Is it really true?
by spiderman on Thu 2nd Feb 2012 08:16 in reply to "RE: Is it really true?"
spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

Nokia also bought Trolltech in 2008. they are like a chicken without a head, running in all directions. One step forward, 2 steps backward. WTF did they expect from Windows Phone? They've been competing with WP since a decade or so and consistently kicking its ass over and over again. Then all of a sudden, they switch gears and embrace the looser strategy. What are they thinking?

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RE[2]: Is it really true?
by JAlexoid on Thu 2nd Feb 2012 10:15 in reply to "RE: Is it really true?"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Because the decision to switch to Windows Phone was taken in 2010 before hiring Elop, by the board. Think about it, why would Nokia hire the boss of the business division at Microsoft, someone who has zero experience in running a hardware company or a mobile business ? There can be only one reason, they had already decided to go with windows phone at that time, and they needed someone to work the deal with Microsoft, that someone was Elop.


That is an option, however unlikely. More like they were entertaining the idea that a former MS exec can get a better deal out of US software makers, than a finnish guy.

Microsoft did offer them a better deal(judging by the financials), no matter what you say.

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RE[3]: Is it really true?
by przemo_li on Thu 2nd Feb 2012 13:10 in reply to "RE[2]: Is it really true?"
przemo_li Member since:
2010-06-01

But again linked article do not compare MS deal to ANYONES deal.

It compare MS solution with Nokia solution. UNUSED Nokia solution. UNEXPLOITED Nokia solution. BANNED Nokia solution.

And state that with Nokia own solution, Nokia could get profits from Q4.

Now talk about Nokia's decisions.

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RE[2]: Is it really true?
by shmerl on Thu 2nd Feb 2012 18:30 in reply to "RE: Is it really true?"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

They have no need for Android OEM shop, while their own Harmattan was a success. They just need some sanity first.

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