Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 2nd Feb 2012 23:07 UTC, submitted by ronaldst
Windows This is the kind of news just tailor-made for OSNews. After 16 years of trusty service, the venerable Windows CE will be history as far as Microsoft's mobile operating system offering goes - the next major version of Windows Phone will use the NT kernel from Windows 8. As a heavy former Windows PocketPC Mobile CE Ultimate SP2 Edition user, this makes me sad. As a fan of the NT kernel, this makes me happy.
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back to the future
by fran on Thu 2nd Feb 2012 23:30 UTC
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2010-08-06

Windows 8 code will thus be evolutionary and not revolutionary.
From Wikipedia "Windows XP, the successor to Windows 2000 and Windows Me, was the first consumer-oriented operating system produced by Microsoft to be built on the Windows NT kernel."

Back to the future

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RE: back to the future
by BluenoseJake on Fri 3rd Feb 2012 02:54 in reply to "back to the future"
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2005-08-11

Maybe the kernel will be evolutionary, but the userland could be (but maybe not). A modern OS is more than just the kernel, and we haven't seen Windows Phone 8.

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RE[2]: back to the future
by UltraZelda64 on Fri 3rd Feb 2012 05:22 in reply to "RE: back to the future"
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2006-12-05

Maybe the kernel will be evolutionary, but the userland could be (but maybe not). A modern OS is more than just the kernel, and we haven't seen Windows Phone 8.

"Modern OS" these days seems to be a term for an OS which has had its GUI butchered and mutilated to work especially well with smaller touch screens (ie., phones, tablets), at the expense of traditional desktop users. In some of those cases, it works. In all of those cases where it works, it's running on one of those portable touchscreen-based systems (iOS, Android, etc.). In those cases where it's running on a traditional desktop computer (Ubuntu's Unity, GNOME 3, Windows 8), it fails... miserably.

Sure, being an OS designed for a phone, Windows Phone 8 should probably work out. But I'm not sure that I'd call it a "modern OS" just because, well hey--it's following the recent trend of going all touchscreen! Sure, it's something new, and modern in many ways (ie. the slimmed down and more modular nature of the kernel vs. its CE counterparts), but to me it just yet another OS. Only maybe it'll work better on its native devices (cell phones) than its big brother Windows 8 will work on its native systems (desktops, laptops, netbooks).

Edited 2012-02-03 05:34 UTC

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RE: back to the future
by bassbeast on Fri 3rd Feb 2012 09:10 in reply to "back to the future"
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2007-11-11

Actually even farther back for us greybeards, as Dave Cutler originally envisioned WinNT to be a portable modular OS that could be run on whatever arch you desired. for those old enough to remember there was a MIPS and IIRC a Sparc as well as an Alpha WinNT.

The problem which MSFT is seemingly ignoring is NOT the OS, its the apps. Frankly they better have a different enough name for Win 8 Tablet edition or whatever to make sure the consumers know this is NOT Win x86 or you are gonna see these devices returned by the truckload. i should know because last Xmas a local retailer was selling "Windows tablets" which had an OS that looked like WinXP but said in the corner "Windows Compact Edition" but frankly nobody knew what that meant. he got so many returns he ended up having to stick a sticker over the Windows label and sell them as generic tablets for a loss.

MSFT better remember that for 20 years now Windows has been Windows has been Windows. thanks to backwards compatibility folks have been able to keep the vast majority of their favorite programs and when they find their favorite Windows programs won't actually run on windows they'll be taking that sucker back. it'll be great for us geeks though, imagine how many tablets we'll have at TouchPad firesale prices!

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