Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 30th Jan 2012 20:39 UTC
General Unix Finally something really interesting to talk about. If you've used UNIX or any of its derivatives, you've probably wondered why there's /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin in the file system. You may even have a rationalisation for the existence of each and every one of these directories. The thing is, though - all these rationalisations were thought up after these directories were created. As it turns out, the real reasoning is pretty damn straightforward.
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RE[7]: We are stuck in the past.
by jabjoe on Fri 3rd Feb 2012 13:21 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: We are stuck in the past."
jabjoe
Member since:
2009-05-06

I don't think you have understand much of what I just said. I give up. Please try and program your crazy idea.

Just please ponder why Pick is in the dust bin of OS history and Unix not only survived but was endlessly copied.

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Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

jabjoe,

"I don't think you have understand much of what I just said. I give up. Please try and program your crazy idea."

Thanks for the support, haha. I offer you two pieces of advice for talking to people like me in the future. 1) try to talk to us as intelligent peers, nobody likes to be talked down to. 2) Focus less on discouragement and more on constructive criticism which might yield better ideas.


"Just please ponder why Pick is in the dust bin of OS history and Unix not only survived but was endlessly copied."

Never used pick. On a side note unix was backed by one of the biggest monopolies in it's time, which might have a lot to do with it.

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JPollard Member since:
2011-12-31

No. UNIX was not backed by a monopoly. You must be thinking of DOS.

AT&T was not allowed to go into the OS business. It was during this time that UNIX grew to acceptance.

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axilmar Member since:
2006-03-20

I don't think you have understand much of what I just said.


I've understood everything you said.

I give up.


It's ok, you don't have any arguments, I understand.

Please try and program your crazy idea.


Apparently, it's not that crazy, since there are various implementations around.

Just please ponder why Pick is in the dust bin of OS history


For the same reason BETA, a superior video format, died and VHS, an inferior format, prevailed.

For the same reason the Amiga, a superior computer, died and the PC, an inferior computer, prevailed.

For the same reason the MC68000, a superior CPU, died, while the 80x86, an inferior CPU, prevailed.

For the same reason LISP machines, a superior computer architecture, died, and other, inferior ones, prevailed.

For the same reason BeOS, a superior IS, failed, and other inferior OSes prevailed.

See? it's not always the better product that succeeds.

Unix not only survived but was endlessly copied.


And that's why he have so many problems in IT.

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Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Edit: oops, I got conversations mixed up and replied earlier to wrong post.

Anyways, it is interesting how two people can look at the same thing and come up with different opinions. But as long as we recognize that we all have different needs, then we should be able to get along. ;)

Edited 2012-02-03 14:55 UTC

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axilmar Member since:
2006-03-20

But as long as we recognize that we all have different needs, then we should be able to get along. ;)


But we all do have the same needs, in the end. That's the problem. We all need to read data, convert them into native values, make computations on them, and convert them back to byte streams to save them on disk.

So much code is dedicated to saving and loading data...all this effort could have been saved for something better.

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