Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 4th Feb 2012 14:37 UTC
Legal "Samsung, in its first acknowledgment of the European Commission's antitrust investigation of its patent licensing practices, Friday said it believed the commission would ultimately conclude the company complies with the rules. The investigation arose out of Samsung's dispute with Apple over trademarks and patents that cover smartphones and tablet computers."
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RE[3]: Samsung Europe
by kristoph on Sat 4th Feb 2012 23:30 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Samsung Europe"
kristoph
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Ok well that's a different argument. I think most sane people - including me - agree that the fact that Apple's suit in Germany is pretty ridiculous but it still follows the rule of law.

Similarly in Germany, Apple was recently forced to pull it's 3G products because, in Germany, it's apparently ok for Moto to use FRAND patents against Apple.

Sucks all around but you can't pick and choose laws and you can't claim that a law is biased with some tangible proof. These are 1st world countries after all with democratically elected leaders.

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RE[4]: Samsung Europe
by Morty on Sun 5th Feb 2012 12:47 in reply to "RE[3]: Samsung Europe"
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2005-07-06

it's apparently ok for Moto to use FRAND patents against Apple.

Of course it is, FRAND is not some magical get out of jail free card. They require valid licenses as all other patents, and if Apple does not have it they should get hit by lawsuits. IMHO, twice as hard with fair less legal wriggle room than in other patent cases.

FRANDs are obviously widely known in the industry, so it's not unknown to Apple and could not be the excuse. It can be cut down to two simple reasons. Apple don't want to license it and disregard other companies IP or they do not accept the FRAND terms all the other licensees of the patent agree to. Sounds like simple IP theft to me, does not matter if it's done by Apple or any other company.

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RE[4]: Samsung Europe
by zima on Sat 11th Feb 2012 23:38 in reply to "RE[3]: Samsung Europe"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Sucks all around but you can't pick and choose laws and you can't claim that a law is biased with some tangible proof. These are 1st world countries after all with democratically elected leaders.

If that's the way you reach conclusions... The causal connection between one and the other is not very firm - in fact, democratic elections / populisms make many biases easier; maybe you're just too used to them...

Just one bias from unrelated field: research shows light drug usage to be pretty consistent across demographic spectrum, and yet IIRC 80-90% of those actually prosecuted from it in the US are inner-city blacks - records of which, down the line, also throw equal employment & education laws out the window; the place is, together with the UK (both 1st world democracies), at the bottom among developed countries in social mobility (essentially, the measure of how much results in life depend on your own efforts, also within legal framework, vs. how much on circumstances of birth, family, place, etc.).

Or - when was the last time you elected a really bald and short president? (I'd imagine the expected prospective & competent demographic to be somewhat higher in those traits than society average)

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