Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 5th Feb 2012 12:26 UTC
Legal "Among the treasure troves of recently released WikiLeaks cables, we find one whose significance has bypassed Swedish media. In short: every law proposal, every ordinance, and every governmental report hostile to the net, youth, and civil liberties here in Sweden in recent years have been commissioned by the US government and industry interests." How such prestigious nations with such long and proud histories, like Sweden, The Netherlands, and so on, can succumb to pressure from a former colony is beyond me. We should know better.
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by JAlexoid on Sun 5th Feb 2012 14:10 UTC in reply to "???"
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An yet it's more of a slant against Sweden and The Netherlands than anything else.

Oh.... And The Netherlands were a "colony" of Spain.

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by bnolsen on Sun 5th Feb 2012 14:11 in reply to "RE: ???"
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and both became colonies of nazi germany until the other colony got in the war.

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by tylerdurden on Mon 6th Feb 2012 00:48 in reply to "RE[2]: ???"
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by evert on Mon 6th Feb 2012 10:21 in reply to "RE: ???"
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No, The Netherlands never were a colony of Spain. Both countries were part of the Holy Roman Empire, in fact a Germanic empire that took some symbols from the old Roman Empire and where the Roman church had much influence. The first Emperor was Frankish (a Germanic tribe). The Emperor of the time of the civil war moved to Spain and ruled from there. The Netherlands didn't want to pay taxes any more, and also the Reformation played its part.

Your historic knowledge of Europe is faulty, which is not surprising giving the fact that you are living in a former colony ;-) Although I have to admit that the former colony has done a great job. But remember that most of your culture originates elsewhere.

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by JAlexoid on Mon 6th Feb 2012 23:54 in reply to "RE[2]: ???"
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Lithuania? A former colony? Of what?

My knowledge of European history may have some holes in it, but I definitely know where Holland is and what country the French refer to as Pays-Bas and why.

PS: Note that I put quotes around the word colony. That is for a reason...

Edited 2012-02-06 23:56 UTC

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