Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 5th Feb 2012 12:26 UTC
Legal "Among the treasure troves of recently released WikiLeaks cables, we find one whose significance has bypassed Swedish media. In short: every law proposal, every ordinance, and every governmental report hostile to the net, youth, and civil liberties here in Sweden in recent years have been commissioned by the US government and industry interests." How such prestigious nations with such long and proud histories, like Sweden, The Netherlands, and so on, can succumb to pressure from a former colony is beyond me. We should know better.
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by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 5th Feb 2012 15:02 UTC in reply to "???"
Thom_Holwerda
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2005-06-29

What that "from a former colony" stuff was about?


It's to indicate that what was once a colony, has now risen far above its former colonisers. I don't think that's a good thing.

I like the relationship between, say, modern South American nations or Canada and Europe far more. South American countries have really come into their own, developed their own culture, and are now equal to the countries that once governed them. Yet, you don't see South American countries or Canada trying to act like dicks. The US is the only former colony now seemingly ruling its colonisers.

The Netherlands committed horribly atrocities in its own colonies (especially in Indonesia). However, if you were to ask an Indonesian now if Indonesia should bribe, pressure, and try to rule The Netherlands, they'd most likely say something along the lines of "Of course not - why would we want to do unto you what we did not want you to do unto us?"

It's not an arrogance thing - it's just highlighting how most former European colonies are happy developing their own culture and ideas without trying to shove it down everybody else's throat.

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by Soulbender on Mon 6th Feb 2012 06:35 in reply to "RE: ???"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

It's to indicate that what was once a colony, has now risen far above its former colonisers. I don't think that's a good thing.


The way you phrased it made it sound a lot like jealousy.

South American countries have really come into their own, developed their own culture


South American countries had their own cultures back when we in the west still wore diapers. It was just suppressed be the colonial tyranny for a while.

happy developing their own culture


See above.

ideas without trying to shove it down everybody else's throat.


Considering the upheavals and internal conflicts many former colonies have gone through this statement is patently false.

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by cyrilleberger on Mon 6th Feb 2012 10:27 in reply to "RE[2]: ???"
cyrilleberger Member since:
2006-02-01


"South American countries have really come into their own, developed their own culture


South American countries had their own cultures back when we in the west still wore diapers. It was just suppressed be the colonial tyranny for a while.
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Before European came to South American, the dominant cultures was the Maya empire from Mexico to northern Central America, Inca more to the south, and various tribes in the rain forest. Most of those cultures have been wiped out when the European invaded, through massacre, diseases and assimilation. And they never came back, right now, to the exception of a few countries such a Bolivia or Equator, the population of South America is dominated by people from European origin. The dominant culture is of a Latino (Spanish and Portuguese) inspiration.

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