Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Feb 2012 21:44 UTC
Legal It would seem that freedom of speech and the open web are in better hands in Eastern Europe than they are in Western Europe. After Poland, the Czech Republic is the second country to suspend the process of ratifying ACTA. "A wave of protests against the international agreement, including hackers' attacks, has swollen in the world as well as in the Czech Republic. 'By no means would the government admit a situation where civic freedoms and free access to information would be threatened,' [Czech PM] Necas said." Anyone from either Poland or the Czech Republic care to comment on how serious we have to take their politicians? If a Dutch or an American politician said something like this, I'd be weary and mistrusting.
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RE: Are you kidding?
by kristoph on Tue 7th Feb 2012 03:27 UTC in reply to "Are you kidding?"
kristoph
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2006-01-01

Yeah, Poland is in a terrible state, what with the best GDP growth in Europe, the huge rise in PPP, the 10%!!! drop in unemployment over the last decade and the booming foreign investment.

Also, did you know that the Polish GDP as measured by PPP is the 20th highest in the world? Poland has grown ahead of countries like the Netherlands, Sweden, Belgium, Greece, Spain and all other former east European countries.

So, yeah, honestly, you may not like your government or whatever but their either doing a good job - economically - or their just amazingly lucky. Either way you want to keep them around.

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RE[2]: Are you kidding?
by radix on Tue 7th Feb 2012 07:49 in reply to "RE: Are you kidding?"
radix Member since:
2012-02-07

Well, it's easy to have higher GDP than let's say Sweden or Belgium when you have four times as large population. What matters is GDP (PPP) per capita and Poland is far behind these countries and also behind other former communist countries like Slovenia, Czech Republic, Slovakia or Hungary.

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RE[2]: Are you kidding?
by Dbxx on Tue 7th Feb 2012 08:35 in reply to "RE: Are you kidding?"
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2012-02-07

It's not the goverment that creates the GDP but simply put hard working people. The goverment is just taking they part (in Poland - over 50%) of what people earn and put it to waste by supporting stupidities like the Ministry of Digitalization - as ridicule idea as Monthy Python's ministry of silly walks.

The PM of Poland only cares about % in polls, hoping to gain some of recently lost points by pretending to care about ACTA and freedom of speach, but in the end he will do what Merkel tells him to.

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RE[2]: Are you kidding?
by Zbigniew on Tue 7th Feb 2012 09:09 in reply to "RE: Are you kidding?"
Zbigniew Member since:
2008-08-28

Yeah, Poland is in a terrible state, what with the best GDP growth in Europe, the huge rise in PPP, the 10%!!! drop in unemployment over the last decade and the booming foreign investment.

Also, did you know that the Polish GDP as measured by PPP is the 20th highest in the world? Poland has grown ahead of countries like the Netherlands, Sweden, Belgium, Greece, Spain and all other former east European countries.


And because of such fantastic growth more than 1 million of young polish people migrated into UK? And another million of the others - into other countries.

Man, the real total debt of polish state is more than 3 000 000 000 000 zl. (!) It's more than 220% GDP! We've been robbed by "politicians".

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RE[3]: Are you kidding?
by przemo_li on Tue 7th Feb 2012 10:56 in reply to "RE[2]: Are you kidding?"
przemo_li Member since:
2010-06-01

Yes.

Lower unemployment, GDB, PPP, all can be ascribed to migrations. Cause just like Ireland, poles send some of earned moneys back home to poland.

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RE[3]: Are you kidding?
by qbast on Tue 7th Feb 2012 22:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Are you kidding?"
qbast Member since:
2010-02-08

Any sources on that "real" debt figure?

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