Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Feb 2012 17:55 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Let this be a lesson. After posts by John Gruber and Shawn King, this happened to Violet Blue. "The misinformation gave a significant number of people fuel to stalk me, attack me for hours at a time, malign, insult me in disgusting ways, threaten me with weapon-specific violent death (an axe), and lead social media attempts to force me to lose my job over the matter. Many referenced John Gruber, and/or his post as they did this. Plans were openly made to make media to attack me - another Angry Mac Bastards podcast." Disgusting story, and sadly enough, this isn't the first time this has happened, as Blue notes in her article. I don't like talking about these matters (you don't want to know the kind of crap that gets thrown my way at times), but I can assure you my inbox has seen its share of pure vitriol after Gruber links to an OSNews piece. It ain't pretty.
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lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

You just proved the point of Jaron Lanier, who I quoted.

people will congregate into partisan online bubbles in which their views are reinforced


Anyway, most of the people I know that own Apple products in IRL aren't apple fanbois.

They are usually Young professionals, that want nice things, I am the only "PC" guy in the office of 100 people and I am also the only one that knows how to use a *nix terminal (which makes be the alpha geek). Most of them buy apple products because they are "cool" or they want something to spend their XMAS bonus on as a treat.

Also, people don't by into Apple's products, they buy into why Apple make the products as they do. Watch the Simon Sinek Video I linked.

Edited 2012-02-07 18:34 UTC

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No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

No, my comment didn't confirm that. In fact, there's nothing in my comment to suggest I've congregated into a partisan bubble to reinforce my views. In fact, my dislike for Apple fanboys suggests I deal with them quite often, which in fact I do.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Yes it did. And the comment I am replying to is doing the same.

Edited 2012-02-07 18:46 UTC

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brichpmr Member since:
2006-04-22

No, my comment didn't confirm that. In fact, there's nothing in my comment to suggest I've congregated into a partisan bubble to reinforce my views. In fact, my dislike for Apple fanboys suggests I deal with them quite often, which in fact I do.


Your comment suggests that you paint with a broad brush and don't deal with Apple users very well.

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Shkaba Member since:
2006-06-22

Anyway, most of the people I know that own Apple products in IRL aren't apple fanbois. They are usually Young professionals, that want nice things, I am the only "PC" guy in the office of 100 people and I am also the only one that knows how to use a *nix terminal (which makes be the alpha geek). Most of them buy apple products because they are "cool" or they want something to spend their XMAS bonus on as a treat.

I have different view of people that buy apple products:
- Spoiled kids who heard that iThings are the best
- Mediocre people who are desperate to get noticed, they keep flaunting their iThings and keep spreading iEvangelism
- An occasional normal/sane person who gets attracted by shiny design (btw this is the area where iThings are good at)
- A geek wannabe (I know one personaly)

---Back to topic---
This is not the first time that iFan sites have deliberately skewed the truth. It is the very definition of a fanboi not to care about facts or what the intended point was. If there is a chance that anything will effect public/online perception of anything i related, attacks will come in hard and en-masse.


***DISCLAIMER***
I do not claim to be objective as I have a deep dislike for Apple, which I consider one the most un-ethical corporations.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

And most of these are quite harmless in themselves. If someone wants to show off their new Gadget and feel special for a bit, I honestly don't see the problem. I like to show off my new bicycle/pc/motorbike mod to my mates.

The problem is that when it turns almost religious. Me and my manager (Apple Fanboi) would regularly trade jibes at one another about Mac/Windows etc etc, in the same way my OpenBSD mate would trade jokes about respective OSes.

I trade jokes with a friend of mine, she is a tri-athlete, the joke is that tri-athletes fall off their bikes more often than "real" road cyclists like myself.

However I have met those that are zealot like in their opinions In Real Life and I normally take the piss until they storm off.

Anyway back OT.

Yes some iFan websites probably do skew topics. But there are probably examples in pretty much any online community.

There are always going to be people that act like sheep online, irrespective on whether they own Apple products or not.

Edited 2012-02-07 19:06 UTC

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macUser Member since:
2006-12-15

I have different view of people that buy apple products:
- Spoiled kids who heard that iThings are the best
- Mediocre people who are desperate to get noticed, they keep flaunting their iThings and keep spreading iEvangelism
- An occasional normal/sane person who gets attracted by shiny design (btw this is the area where iThings are good at)
- A geek wannabe (I know one personaly)


Of course, you're better than those chumps! Of course if I had the same opinion of you for using brand X, I'd be a frothing idiot fanboi!

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Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22


I have different view of people that buy apple products:
- Spoiled kids who heard that iThings are the best
- Mediocre people who are desperate to get noticed, they keep flaunting their iThings and keep spreading iEvangelism
- An occasional normal/sane person who gets attracted by shiny design (btw this is the area where iThings are good at)
- A geek wannabe (I know one personaly)


And oddly this group of people seem to be growing by tens of millions every year. How odd. I wonder what caused that?

Loved the "I know one personally" remark. Made me laugh.

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