Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 10th Feb 2012 00:09 UTC, submitted by moondevil
Windows As you all know, Windows 8 will be the first release of Windows NT which supports the ARM architecture. Microsoft hasn't been particularly forthcoming about this new Windows variant, but that's changing today. The company has posted a long and in-depth blog post about Windows 8 on ARM.
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Linux
by Lorin on Fri 10th Feb 2012 01:36 UTC
Lorin
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This is the golden opportunity Linux has been waiting for, I really hope the community is up to the challenge.

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RE: Linux
by WorknMan on Fri 10th Feb 2012 02:04 in reply to "Linux"
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2005-11-13

This is the golden opportunity Linux has been waiting for, I really hope the community is up to the challenge.


What opportunity is Linux supposed to take advantage of? Linux won't even be able to run on these ARM-based devices, or at least without jailbreaking. They've got that secure boot thing on there.

Edited 2012-02-10 02:05 UTC

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RE[2]: Linux
by XenonXZ on Fri 10th Feb 2012 11:18 in reply to "RE: Linux"
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2011-05-25

I don't really know much about this secure boot sh*te, but it'll probs be cracked in a few days anyway... Or does that render the hardware unusable because of it requiring keys?

I'd love it if it was cracked and other OS's could be installed

Edited 2012-02-10 11:22 UTC

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ARM & Secure Boot
by Pro-Competition on Fri 10th Feb 2012 16:20 in reply to "RE: Linux"
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2007-08-20

So much for Ed Bott's "For one thing, there’s no such thing as a 'Windows 8 ARM PC.'" (*) That didn't take long.

Thanks for nothing, Microsoft (and commentators like Ed Bott)!

* http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/linux-wont-be-locked-out-of-windows-...

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RE: Linux
by jbauer on Fri 10th Feb 2012 08:56 in reply to "Linux"
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2005-07-06

This is the golden opportunity Linux has been waiting for, I really hope the community is up to the challenge.


Oh my, it's 2001 again.

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RE: Linux
by r_a_trip on Fri 10th Feb 2012 09:56 in reply to "Linux"
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2005-07-06

This is the golden opportunity Linux has been waiting for [snip]

I'd like to know as well what the opportunity is supposed to be here? Windows 8 Tablets are off limits to anyone but MS, thanks to the custom written MS UEFI with secure boot only. WOA is firmware, incredibly powerful firmware with Office 15 integrated, but firmware nonetheless. So no real chance of getting anything Linux related on there.

Or are we talking about the attempt of KDE to bring their Plasma Active to market on a rebranded, Chinese tablet? Regardless of the quality of the software, a tablet with an 1 GHz yesteryear ARM SoC is no match for the coming dual and quad core ARM WOA systems. No matter how insanely optimised Plasma Active might be, single core SoC's won't be running circles around the newer crop of ARM chips. I do applaud the KDE project for having the wits to see that just making a DE platform isn't enough.

I'm a very happy Linux user, but since I've shed my rose colored FOSS, Kumbaya glasses, I've started to see clearly that opportunities are there for Linux to make a splash, but all these opportunities are NOT predicated on perceived failures of Microsoft.

How many times haven't we heard "Microsoft stumbled, this is a golden opportunity for Linux!" After which the Linux luminaries just sat on their butts, assuming that "not being worse than MS" is enough to take over. We have a few Linux based OEM's, like System76 and ZaReason, but lets be realistic here. Buying at these shops is just robbing yourself monetarilly for the pleasure of having a FOSSically correct machine. A very small selection of expensive machines too.

Where is the new business that makes laptops, desktops, tablets and works with upstream to ensure smooth software upgrades? The shop that sells Linux machines at comparable market prices? The shop that isn't afraid to do some marketing. Isn't afraid of pushing ODF and ODF office applications as first class components, based on a recognized ISO document standard.

Oh well. Business as usual I guess.

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RE[2]: Linux
by Jondice on Fri 10th Feb 2012 17:08 in reply to "RE: Linux"
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2006-09-20

These ARM devices aren't the only ARM tablets out there. Another analogy, I don't know a single person using WP7.

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RE[2]: Linux
by shmerl on Fri 10th Feb 2012 18:09 in reply to "RE: Linux"
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2010-06-08

Well, who cares, just don't buy locked tablets running MS jailed system. While Spark isn't the best hardware around, there were reasons why that model was chosen, and those reasons outweigh need for higher end specs now. The project needs to start with something practical, rather than wait forever for ideal situation.

Edited 2012-02-10 18:10 UTC

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RE: Linux
by zima on Fri 17th Feb 2012 23:22 in reply to "Linux"
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2005-07-06

This is the golden opportunity Linux has been waiting for

Yup, it looks like Win8 might very well be the next Vista when it comes to weakening the Windows grip on the market, propping up Linux market share. Or like it happened due long dying of win9x, and all its flaws.

And this time, the awesome UIs of Gnome 3 or Unity will assure even better success for desktop Linux than on previous occasions.

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