Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 10th Feb 2012 00:09 UTC, submitted by moondevil
Windows As you all know, Windows 8 will be the first release of Windows NT which supports the ARM architecture. Microsoft hasn't been particularly forthcoming about this new Windows variant, but that's changing today. The company has posted a long and in-depth blog post about Windows 8 on ARM.
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RE[3]: Pfui !
by rafaelnp on Mon 13th Feb 2012 13:36 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Pfui !"
rafaelnp
Member since:
2009-06-03

Microsoft does create crappy software because technical excellence is not the main issue, the real main issue is to make money. If the people keep buying, they do not give a shit about anything else.

Edited 2012-02-13 13:37 UTC

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RE[4]: Pfui !
by siride on Mon 13th Feb 2012 15:09 in reply to "RE[3]: Pfui !"
siride Member since:
2006-01-02

But they don't create crappy software. A lot of their software is actually quite good, especially for the amount of things it can do, compared to the competition. People here complain about MS Office, and it does have its flaws, but it is head and shoulders above the competition. Excel, for example, has no real counterpart in the FOSS world. All the FOSS equivalents are, dare I say, crappy (how's that for irony on your part). Eclipse is the closest equivalent to Visual Studio and it's only good because it's backed by IBM and the Apache Foundation and gets a ton of resources. There is no real FOSS equivalent to Access, Exchange, SharePoint or .NET. You may say these are crap, but they aren't (they have crappy parts, for sure, but they are otherwise remarkably capable and powerful tools and platforms), and businesses use them and they really help. People don't pay money to MS because they're idiots, they pay money because MS software *works* and does a lot of things they *need*. Try working in the real world and maybe you'll realize that.

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RE[5]: Pfui !
by tanishaj on Mon 13th Feb 2012 17:33 in reply to "RE[4]: Pfui !"
tanishaj Member since:
2010-12-22

Eclipse is the closest equivalent to Visual Studio and it's only good because it's backed by IBM and the Apache Foundation and gets a ton of resources. There is no real FOSS equivalent to Access, Exchange, SharePoint or .NET.


About your Eclipse comment, I was going to say that MonoDevelop is getting pretty good and is very similar in spirit to Visual Studio:

http://monodevelop.com/

Then you said there was no FOSS equivalent to .NET which is absurd. First of all, there is a complete .NET clone--Mono.

http://mono-project.com/Main_Page

Second, there are many other environments which are good substitutes or "equivalents" for .NET around. Many people might consider Java as a candidate for example.

There is an army of FOSS CMS systems; they own the market. Your other selections are worthy of a bit of debate but you certainly overstate things:

http://www.open-xchange.com/en/home.html
http://www.zimbra.com/
http://www.sogo.nu/english.html
http://www.zarafa.com/content/home
http://www.horde.org/

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RE[5]: Pfui !
by rafaelnp on Mon 13th Feb 2012 20:10 in reply to "RE[4]: Pfui !"
rafaelnp Member since:
2009-06-03

Man, i use Vim, LaTeX and stuff like that, i do not use any other software for writing code. Visual Studio and Eclipse are a waste of time for me. The most important thing for me is technical excellence, and not fancy and useless features.

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RE[4]: Pfui !
by moondevil on Mon 13th Feb 2012 19:08 in reply to "RE[3]: Pfui !"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

The next time you think about using Haskell or OCaml, don't forget that Microsoft is the main company sponsoring its development.

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RE[5]: Pfui !
by rafaelnp on Mon 13th Feb 2012 20:13 in reply to "RE[4]: Pfui !"
rafaelnp Member since:
2009-06-03

Sorry to disappoint you, i do not use stuff like that.

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