Linked by David Adams on Tue 14th Feb 2012 17:25 UTC, submitted by Anonymous
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu It looks like a new "locally integrated menu" will make it into Unity, starting with version 5.6.0. There's basically no information about the new locally integrated menubar, except for two bug reports which link to some custom Unity, Compiz, Metacity and Light Themes branches so to see "LIM" in action, I've compiled all these branches and here's the result. The "locally integrated menubar" can be displayed on the panel (for maximized windows) as well as in the window decoration (unmaximized windows). But it's not displayed on both in the same time.
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RE: Quo Vadis, Canonical?
by ricegf on Wed 15th Feb 2012 03:34 UTC in reply to "Quo Vadis, Canonical?"
ricegf
Member since:
2007-04-25

Touch. Voice. Gestures.

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RE[2]: Quo Vadis, Canonical?
by Neolander on Wed 15th Feb 2012 06:04 in reply to "RE: Quo Vadis, Canonical?"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Touch. Voice. Gestures.

Well, I am not impressed.

Are you really advocating using solely these inputs to do anything a bit advanced on the content creation side ? I mean, finger painting and shouting repeatedly at the computer until it gets what you mean is cute and all, but I still can't see how it can efficiently replace keyboards, mice, and styluses at the tasks where those are good for.

A future proof user interface should see beyond the latest gimmicks in the realm of input devices.

Edited 2012-02-15 06:21 UTC

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RE[3]: Quo Vadis, Canonical?
by ricegf on Wed 15th Feb 2012 12:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Quo Vadis, Canonical?"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

I answered a question, Neolander, I didn't advocate anything.

But since you asked my opinion ;-), I don't yet see a particular advantage to using the exact same interface on desktops and touch devices, as Canonical and Microsoft seem to be promoting. And I'm not at all sold on incompatible desktops and tablets, as Apple and Google are promoting.

Rather, I'd like to see different UIs on different device types, but with the same underlying OS and compatible toolkits to make writing apps across the board much less work. This was the MeeGo model, I think it's the KDE model (though I'm pretty new to their touch interface), and Microsoft may be moving that way with Window [Phone] 8.

I use an iPad, and it's sometimes elegant, but definitely under-powered for "real" work. I love Maemo and its ability to use *real* applications rather than limited iPad-like apps, even though my beloved N900 is getting pretty dated. Unity works pretty well on tablets (with a little tweaking), but I'm not sold on it for desktops - though I'm giving it a fair shot right now on my primary workstation at home (with some occasional Cinnamon Mint tossed in for flavor, while using Suse with Gnome 2, Red Hat with KDE 4, and Win 7 on workstations at my day job).

So I'm open to a one-size-fits-all UI approach, but skeptical that I'll find one that really works well for me on all device types.

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RE[3]: Quo Vadis, Canonical?
by Sauron on Wed 15th Feb 2012 22:44 in reply to "RE[2]: Quo Vadis, Canonical?"
Sauron Member since:
2005-08-02

I mean, finger painting and shouting repeatedly at the computer until it gets what you mean is cute and all

Try installing and using Vista or Gnome 3 and before long
you'll be shouting at the damn thing even without the use of a microphone! ;)

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RE[2]: Quo Vadis, Canonical?
by l3v1 on Wed 15th Feb 2012 10:08 in reply to "RE: Quo Vadis, Canonical?"
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

Touch. Voice. Gestures.


Well, if one goes for that, they should state it upfront, so desktop people don't complain unnecessarily, and don't use crap that isn't intended for them. Just sayin'.

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RE[3]: Quo Vadis, Canonical?
by ricegf on Thu 16th Feb 2012 12:05 in reply to "RE[2]: Quo Vadis, Canonical?"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

That would be transparent and all, and a Very Good Idea IMHO.

The only reason I can imagine off-hand for not publicly showing a clear road map would be to avoid giving too much competitive warning to certain corporations with a reputation for poaching technology.

(Unity debuted on June 9, 2010, while Metro on Windows should launch sometime in 2012 according to Mr. Ballmer's infamous slip of the tongue - somewhat after the Long Term Support version of Unity ships this April.)

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