Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Feb 2012 17:53 UTC
General Development "In this blog post (and the one that will follow) we'd like to introduce a few of the broad reaching experience improvements that we've delivered in Visual Studio 11. We've worked hard on them over the last two years and believe that they will significantly improve the experience that you will have with Visual Studio."
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For C++
by reduz on Fri 24th Feb 2012 18:54 UTC
reduz
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2006-02-25

Qt-Creator is one of the best IDEs i've ever used, works on every platform and is fully featured, and I don't even use it for Qt development..

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RE: For C++
by Hiev on Fri 24th Feb 2012 19:11 in reply to "For C++"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

Does it have metrics? Unit testing? Performance analizers? Integration with UML? Team Suite? Multible DB integration?

Qt is a good IDE, bu is not comparable yet with VS.

Edited 2012-02-24 19:12 UTC

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RE[2]: For C++
by reduz on Fri 24th Feb 2012 19:27 in reply to "RE: For C++"
reduz Member since:
2006-02-25

Why would you need all that inside an IDE? There are plenty of external tools you can use for that

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RE[2]: For C++
by Sandlord on Sun 26th Feb 2012 22:35 in reply to "RE: For C++"
Sandlord Member since:
2006-07-12

Does it have metrics? Unit testing? Performance analizers? Integration with UML? Team Suite? Multible DB integration?

Qt is a good IDE, bu is not comparable yet with VS.


*sigh*

Read: http://pragprog.com/the-pragmatic-programmer

you should use the tool that is most effective. If it is VS then use that if it is QtCreator than use that...

In my personal usage I can only say:

VS2010 without VisualAssist was unusable in an unmanaged C++ project with >400000 lines of code. With VisualAssist it is quite fine. VS2010 still has the best debugger I know, although no utf-32 support which made it difficult to debug our string class...
The downside is the slow GUI and the 1-2 Crashes a day and 2-3 Minutes to restart. Not to mention the occasional hang for 30 seconds.

QtCreator instead is a lean IDE which supports just the things I need. Fast and Quick. If it crashes, which happens perhaps once a day, it is up and running again in 30 seconds. The GUI debugger I find is not so usable.

So I find myself working with both tools ... ;)

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RE: For C++
by ebasconp on Sat 25th Feb 2012 00:58 in reply to "For C++"
ebasconp Member since:
2006-05-09

Completely agreed.

I like Visual Studio a lot, but because it is Windows-only, its not-so-good "intellisense" for C++ projects and its poor support for the new C++11 standards, make Qt Creator the best option for me.

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RE: For C++
by MORB on Sat 25th Feb 2012 14:49 in reply to "For C++"
MORB Member since:
2005-07-06

Does it takes 5 minutes to start? Does it randomly crash? Does it insist on maintaining a list of files contained inside of the project which causes merging issues all the time and is completely redundant with the actual filesystem? Does it have context menus so overflowing with useless stuff that you have to scroll through them to find the one thing you need? Does it randomly hang for a few seconds when you click inside of a file? Does it still offer a small and unresizeable window to tweak C++ project settings and paths in the year 2012?

Qt creator is a good IDE, but is not comparable yet with VS.

Edited 2012-02-25 14:50 UTC

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RE[2]: For C++
by Hiev on Sat 25th Feb 2012 15:24 in reply to "RE: For C++"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

You are just trolling.

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