Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Feb 2012 17:53 UTC
General Development "In this blog post (and the one that will follow) we'd like to introduce a few of the broad reaching experience improvements that we've delivered in Visual Studio 11. We've worked hard on them over the last two years and believe that they will significantly improve the experience that you will have with Visual Studio."
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RE: For C++
by Hiev on Fri 24th Feb 2012 19:11 UTC in reply to "For C++"
Hiev
Member since:
2005-09-27

Does it have metrics? Unit testing? Performance analizers? Integration with UML? Team Suite? Multible DB integration?

Qt is a good IDE, bu is not comparable yet with VS.

Edited 2012-02-24 19:12 UTC

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RE[2]: For C++
by reduz on Fri 24th Feb 2012 19:27 in reply to "RE: For C++"
reduz Member since:
2006-02-25

Why would you need all that inside an IDE? There are plenty of external tools you can use for that

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RE[3]: For C++
by Hiev on Fri 24th Feb 2012 19:54 in reply to "RE[2]: For C++"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

As sommeone who has worked on big corporate projects who do actually use process, I can tell you it is necessary, the "Type and Compile" style of IDE is not for every need.

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RE[3]: For C++
by roar on Fri 24th Feb 2012 20:21 in reply to "RE[2]: For C++"
roar Member since:
2009-12-26

Why would you need all that inside an IDE? There are plenty of external tools you can use for that

Because that's the whole point - and what the I in IDE stands for - of an Integrated development environment as opposed to a tricked-out text editor.

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RE[3]: For C++
by gonzo on Fri 24th Feb 2012 20:38 in reply to "RE[2]: For C++"
gonzo Member since:
2005-11-10

Because: IDE = Integrated Dev. Env.

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RE[2]: For C++
by Sandlord on Sun 26th Feb 2012 22:35 in reply to "RE: For C++"
Sandlord Member since:
2006-07-12

Does it have metrics? Unit testing? Performance analizers? Integration with UML? Team Suite? Multible DB integration?

Qt is a good IDE, bu is not comparable yet with VS.


*sigh*

Read: http://pragprog.com/the-pragmatic-programmer

you should use the tool that is most effective. If it is VS then use that if it is QtCreator than use that...

In my personal usage I can only say:

VS2010 without VisualAssist was unusable in an unmanaged C++ project with >400000 lines of code. With VisualAssist it is quite fine. VS2010 still has the best debugger I know, although no utf-32 support which made it difficult to debug our string class...
The downside is the slow GUI and the 1-2 Crashes a day and 2-3 Minutes to restart. Not to mention the occasional hang for 30 seconds.

QtCreator instead is a lean IDE which supports just the things I need. Fast and Quick. If it crashes, which happens perhaps once a day, it is up and running again in 30 seconds. The GUI debugger I find is not so usable.

So I find myself working with both tools ... ;)

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