Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Feb 2012 17:53 UTC
General Development "In this blog post (and the one that will follow) we'd like to introduce a few of the broad reaching experience improvements that we've delivered in Visual Studio 11. We've worked hard on them over the last two years and believe that they will significantly improve the experience that you will have with Visual Studio."
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RE[3]: For C++
by roar on Fri 24th Feb 2012 20:21 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: For C++"
roar
Member since:
2009-12-26

Why would you need all that inside an IDE? There are plenty of external tools you can use for that

Because that's the whole point - and what the I in IDE stands for - of an Integrated development environment as opposed to a tricked-out text editor.

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RE[4]: For C++
by vivainio on Fri 24th Feb 2012 21:24 in reply to "RE[3]: For C++"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

Because that's the whole point - and what the I in IDE stands for - of an Integrated development environment as opposed to a tricked-out text editor.


"Integrated" doesn't mean it should include all the features under the sun in it. Only the features you need to produce code (edit, code complete, build, deploy, debug).

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RE[5]: For C++
by tylerdurden on Sat 25th Feb 2012 01:42 in reply to "RE[4]: For C++"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

Some people consider Testing, collaboration, version management, etc. to be fundamental in the software development cycle.

Testing, for example, takes as much time/bulk of effort as the code writing in plenty of projects.

I am not claiming the "integrated" approach is the only way, but some so-called "IDEs" are really "IPDEs" (Integrated Partial Development Environments).

I normally don't care much for microsoft products, but their development environments are top notch.

Edited 2012-02-25 01:44 UTC

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RE[5]: For C++
by gonzo on Sat 25th Feb 2012 19:07 in reply to "RE[4]: For C++"
gonzo Member since:
2005-11-10

Why not?

If you don't need some feature, just don't use it.

But when you need it, it is there, WELL INTEGRATED into your workflow.

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