Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Feb 2012 21:59 UTC
Multimedia, AV An interesting anecdote at MinimalMac about television being broken. The author's young daughter, who is growing up in a Netflix/Hulu/iTunes/etc. household, was confronted with actual TV for the first time, and wonders why she can't pick what to watch, why the shows are being interrupted all the time, and so on. Clearly - TV is broken.
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Still stealing.
by jefro on Fri 24th Feb 2012 22:15 UTC
jefro
Member since:
2007-04-13
RE: Still stealing.
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 24th Feb 2012 22:21 in reply to "Still stealing."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29



* downloading IS legal in my country.
* I don't have a credit card. Relatively few people do in The Netherlands.
* Not HD. This is a DVD.
* No sample. Can't see if I like the series before buying it.
* The kicker: "No shipments to Germany, Italy,Netherlands, Hungary, Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Austria, South American countries."

Edited 2012-02-24 22:21 UTC

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v RE[2]: Still stealing.
by ilovebeer on Sat 25th Feb 2012 00:42 in reply to "RE: Still stealing."
v RE[2]: Still stealing.
by Vinegar Joe on Sat 25th Feb 2012 00:53 in reply to "RE: Still stealing."
RE[2]: Still stealing.
by Neolander on Sat 25th Feb 2012 07:03 in reply to "RE: Still stealing."
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

* downloading IS legal in my country.

Downloading, yes, but on p2p services you usually have to seed back isn't it ?

This has always bothered me.

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RE[2]: Still stealing.
by Browser Insider on Sat 25th Feb 2012 11:14 in reply to "RE: Still stealing."
Browser Insider Member since:
2009-06-16

What I think about intrusive ads in TV programs is that we could do to TV what we've done to the web with Adblock Plus. The small community of admins could use a computer application used to monitor a TV channel and to add milestones at the very beginnings and ends of every ad. Then they would share in real time these milestones accross other users who would watch their TV show slightly late, and their application would cut off TV ads based on the ads database updated in real time. This could also be used when you schedule a recording. Let's say you want to record a movie tonight. You set your computer to record film XYZ tonight, using the database. No ads before, no ads after, and none inbetween either! This would be 100% legal and convenient. Sample of database content, for instance:

channel3;from=06:32:15;md5start=765767892210972;to=06:43:12;md5stop=65 52972019862453
channe02;from=06:32:15=md5start;765767892210972;to=06:43:12;md5stop=65 52972019862453
channe11;from=06:32:15;md5start=765767892210972;to=06:43:12;md5stop=65 52972019862453
channe01;from=06:32:15;md5start=765767892210972;to=06:43:12;md5stop=65 52972019862453
channe10;from=06:32:15;md5start=765767892210972;to=06:43:12;md5stop=65 52972019862453

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RE[2]: Still stealing.
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Sat 25th Feb 2012 16:03 in reply to "RE: Still stealing."
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Most people in The Netherlands don't have credit cards? What do you use to purchase items? Certainly not Cash or Cheques?

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RE: Still stealing.
by d3vi1 on Sat 25th Feb 2012 11:42 in reply to "Still stealing."
d3vi1 Member since:
2006-01-28

Jefro. I also "steal" because I get absolutely no option to digitally buy the TV Shows. In the States you get Hulu and Netflix with which you watch as much as you want for pennies, but in other countries, the content is either prohibitively expensive (€50/season in a country with €300 average wage) or not available at all. When the content is finally available (usually 1 year later) it's of bad quality (widescreen in 4:3 with black bars on DVDs).

And here's the best part, if I search really really hard I can find most things that I would like to watch in another EU county (varies by content), but I can't buy it since my billing address is not from there. This is especially appalling since the EU fundamental freedoms require services and products to be available cross-border to any EU citizen. By comparison, it would be like denying a citizen from New Hampshire the ability to buy from the iTunes Store because the iTunes Store is only available in California, or because a movie is only available in the California iTunes Store (and not in the New Hampshire Store).

So the whole system is idiotic and counter-productive, but they want us to sign ACTA. Here's what they don't get: I have a lot of storage capacity, until they decide to make the TV Series that I enjoy available for decent money in my country, I will have downloaded all of them on an external raid array remuxed them to MP4 and tagged them. I want my ability to watch whatever I feel like watching for $29 on NetFlix, and to watch whatever TV shows I like on Hulu. I don't want to pay €200 per month to be able to watch the same TV Shows and Movies that an american watches for $29. Especially when they are not made available in my country soon enough.

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RE: Still stealing.
by franksands on Mon 27th Feb 2012 18:30 in reply to "Still stealing."
franksands Member since:
2009-08-18

Hey, give me an legal and official way to watch my series and I will be the first one in line.
I live in Brazil. No Amazon, No Hulu, we have Netflix but only for things 5 years old or older (they are advertising season *1* of Heroes now) and iTunes only does movies and even so, still has a smal catalogue. I wouldn't complain much about watching it in cable *IF* I was sure all shows I want would be displayed here and I wouldn't have to wait months for them to start.

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