Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Feb 2012 21:59 UTC
Multimedia, AV An interesting anecdote at MinimalMac about television being broken. The author's young daughter, who is growing up in a Netflix/Hulu/iTunes/etc. household, was confronted with actual TV for the first time, and wonders why she can't pick what to watch, why the shows are being interrupted all the time, and so on. Clearly - TV is broken.
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Gave Up Cable, Dont Miss It
by runjorel on Sat 25th Feb 2012 00:36 UTC
runjorel
Member since:
2009-02-09

About 10 years ago, I stopped subscribing to cable. And since then online services have gotten a lot better (Hulu, Netflix). Before I joined those services, I just bought used DVDs of movies and shows I wanted to see. Buying all that 'used' media was still cheaper than me subscribing to cable and I still had the opportunity to customize my programming so-to-speak. TV therefore is now an archaic technology...or rather...medium to me. But I know I have to remember I have been fortunate enough to afford the bandwidth to customize my own programming.

I wonder when the majority of TV audiences will finally shift to watching the most of their shows online, and when that shift happens I wonder if TV Media will finally accept online viewing as the primary medium or will they try weird antics to keep people glued to a TV set. And I am sure Ubuntu TV and Apple TV are going to try to change the game in that area as well.

One thing I will say about TV, in my experience, is that I have found traditional TV to be more social than online viewing. Huddling around the TV with friends at a specific time to watch shows, calling friends up after a show with the whole "WTH, did you see that?!?" moments, etc. just dont happen the same way online imo. And then sometimes I miss random re-runs that appear on TV (hello random Star Trek TNG episode).

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RE: Gave Up Cable, Dont Miss It
by Yoko_T on Sat 25th Feb 2012 02:05 in reply to "Gave Up Cable, Dont Miss It"
Yoko_T Member since:
2011-08-18

About 10 years ago, I stopped subscribing to cable. And since then online services have gotten a lot better (Hulu, Netflix). Before I joined those services, I just bought used DVDs of movies and shows I wanted to see. Buying all that 'used' media was still cheaper than me subscribing to cable and I still had the opportunity to customize my programming so-to-speak. TV therefore is now an archaic technology...or rather...medium to me. But I know I have to remember I have been fortunate enough to afford the bandwidth to customize my own programming.

I wonder when the majority of TV audiences will finally shift to watching the most of their shows online, and when that shift happens I wonder if TV Media will finally accept online viewing as the primary medium or will they try weird antics to keep people glued to a TV set. And I am sure Ubuntu TV and Apple TV are going to try to change the game in that area as well.

One thing I will say about TV, in my experience, is that I have found traditional TV to be more social than online viewing. Huddling around the TV with friends at a specific time to watch shows, calling friends up after a show with the whole "WTH, did you see that?!?" moments, etc. just dont happen the same way online imo. And then sometimes I miss random re-runs that appear on TV (hello random Star Trek TNG episode).


You've got to be kidding. Nobody who has a life wants to watch the compressed crap on services like Hulu and Netflix for any real amount of time.

Just watching it at friends' house gives me a headache.

No way would I subscribe to any of these "services"

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Bobthearch Member since:
2006-01-27

Yeah, streaming quality absolutely SUCKS. Only a small portion of Netflix's movies are even available for streaming anyway.

I subscribe to Netflix, but get real DVDs in the mail.

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TheIdiotThatIsMe Member since:
2006-06-17

"About 10 years ago, I stopped subscribing to cable. And since then online services have gotten a lot better (Hulu, Netflix). Before I joined those services, I just bought used DVDs of movies and shows I wanted to see. Buying all that 'used' media was still cheaper than me subscribing to cable and I still had the opportunity to customize my programming so-to-speak. TV therefore is now an archaic technology...or rather...medium to me. But I know I have to remember I have been fortunate enough to afford the bandwidth to customize my own programming.

I wonder when the majority of TV audiences will finally shift to watching the most of their shows online, and when that shift happens I wonder if TV Media will finally accept online viewing as the primary medium or will they try weird antics to keep people glued to a TV set. And I am sure Ubuntu TV and Apple TV are going to try to change the game in that area as well.

One thing I will say about TV, in my experience, is that I have found traditional TV to be more social than online viewing. Huddling around the TV with friends at a specific time to watch shows, calling friends up after a show with the whole "WTH, did you see that?!?" moments, etc. just dont happen the same way online imo. And then sometimes I miss random re-runs that appear on TV (hello random Star Trek TNG episode).


You've got to be kidding. Nobody who has a life wants to watch the compressed crap on services like Hulu and Netflix for any real amount of time.

Just watching it at friends' house gives me a headache.

No way would I subscribe to any of these "services"
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I'm actually a bit surprised you had such bad experiences with it. I'm subscribed to both Netflix and Amazon Instant Video; I've never had a problem wit the quality of either. I use Netflix quite a bit, since I don't use cable or broadcast TV, and it's library is worth the 7.99 for me (I'm a sucker for Bones and Psych, and a few other TV shows on there with some movies sprinkled in). When I have people over, no one can tell the difference between Netflix and an upscaled DVD on the PS3 (most HD I usually just buy on Bluray).

Staying away from piracy (it is illegal where I live, and even if a business isn't "competent" to some people's standards, I won't break the law to obtain something without payment if it is available legally) is largely what drove me to services like Netflix and Amazon MP3; easy access to digital goods.

Before that, I did what the person above you stated; I mostly bought used DVD's (and often still do, I'm a movie lover).

I feel those in situations like Thom's have very valid points: when there is no real business presence to offer the services and legal avenue for obtaining these items, you can't be surprised when people take to torrents. But I do sometimes think people here in the US try to use similar arguments that don't hold up as well here, as an excuse for piracy.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

You're an video-audiophile. Most people aren't. I grew up watching tv on a 19 inch screen with all mannor of analog interference. Use the blender, no tv sound. Use the vacuum, no tv picture.

Digital tv in any format I've very seen blows the ever loving snot out of that. I care about good plots and good acting. If there are good visuals, well neato, but it doesn't make a crappy movie good.

In all reality, most people are more like me than you.

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RE: Gave Up Cable, Dont Miss It
by AnyoneEB on Sat 25th Feb 2012 23:41 in reply to "Gave Up Cable, Dont Miss It"
AnyoneEB Member since:
2008-10-26

One thing I will say about TV, in my experience, is that I have found traditional TV to be more social than online viewing. Huddling around the TV with friends at a specific time to watch shows, calling friends up after a show with the whole "WTH, did you see that?!?" moments, etc. just dont happen the same way online imo. And then sometimes I miss random re-runs that appear on TV (hello random Star Trek TNG episode).

Interesting that you say that. In my friends group, most people use Netflix/Hulu with some torrents; almost no one I know has cable (just a couple sports fans). As people don't get around to watching shows at the same time each week (or even necessarily the same week) discussing shows at a specific time doesn't work quite as well. On the other hand, I find streaming/torrents way more convenient for social viewing because we can start and pause whenever we want and we can watch multiple episodes in a row.

We work around the random TNG episode problem by using random.org to select which TNG episode to watch next off Netflix (with people vetoing ones they have seen recently).

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