Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Feb 2012 21:59 UTC
Multimedia, AV An interesting anecdote at MinimalMac about television being broken. The author's young daughter, who is growing up in a Netflix/Hulu/iTunes/etc. household, was confronted with actual TV for the first time, and wonders why she can't pick what to watch, why the shows are being interrupted all the time, and so on. Clearly - TV is broken.
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RE[2]: DVD Quality
by lucas_maximus on Mon 27th Feb 2012 11:48 UTC in reply to "RE: DVD Quality"
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I appreciate it doesn't improve the actual quality. However it improved the perceivable quality.

i.e. if the DVD was merely stretched to fit, it would look terrible, However the upscaler makes it look almost as good as Hi-Def. I can barely see the difference between DVD of Predator and Predator Blu-ray ... I was quite surprised.

While it isn't better quality in a mathematical sense this fact is simply academic.

My existing DVD media looks more than good enough on my Hi-Definition TV ... so I get the best of both worlds.

1) I don't have to replace my existing DVDs (since they look more than good enough).
2) I can enjoy Hi-def content.

Edited 2012-02-27 11:55 UTC

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RE[3]: DVD Quality
by ilovebeer on Mon 27th Feb 2012 16:47 in reply to "RE[2]: DVD Quality"
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I can barely see the difference between DVD of Predator and Predator Blu-ray ... I was quite surprised.

You do realize that Predator isn't exactly a great movie to use for reference or comparison right? The absolute best version of Predator available is the Hunter digital remaster and even that doesn't provide any huge leaps in quality.

There are a number of far better sources to use (the Lost tv series for example). This is a heavily discussed topic, it would be interesting to see how great you think your upscaler does when you're comparing material with significant difference in quality.

No I didn't, I said I couldn't see the difference, this is a massive difference from there actually being a difference.

See my comments about perceived quality, and note "There is no magic algorithm by which otherwise absent quality appears out of thin air.".

If you see no difference between an upscaled DVD and the bluray counterpart, you need to pick better quality material for comparison. As mentioned earlier, Predator is known to have less than stellar quality on bluray.

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RE[4]: DVD Quality
by lucas_maximus on Tue 28th Feb 2012 08:23 in reply to "RE[3]: DVD Quality"
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Sorry I don't really care what other videophiles think. I chose Predator because the filming and colours on a standard definition television (Sony WEGA CRT that I had) looks fantastic. That is what I am comparing it to..

Anyway Predator has a huge amount of greens, the human eye can see more different greens than any other colour. Also the film looks pretty good almost 30 years later.

I also mentioned Apocalypse now, which on blu-ray is fantastically clear.

Anyway I said the quality is "good enough". My DVDs don't look stretched and blocky and I don't have to buy Blu-rays or download a newer Hi-Def copy. That is the whole point of upscaling anyway.

TBH you can argue the toss all day about what looks best it is purely subjective topic.

I think Lost looks like any of TV series on a beach, newer films with all their CGI effects look weird on hi-def television because everything is a little too crisp. I rather watch something like Generation Kill in hi-def than crap like Lost even if the "quality" isn't there.

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