Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Feb 2012 12:22 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones And even more news from Mobile World Congress in Barcelona. Mozilla has announced a partnership with Telefonica and Qualcomm, which will bring Mozilla's Boot to Gecko HTML5-based mobile interface to devices later his year. This is a huge boon for the fully open source environment.
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Comment by lucas_maximus
by lucas_maximus on Mon 27th Feb 2012 13:08 UTC
lucas_maximus
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2009-08-18

Telephonica has legendarily bad customer service here in Spain.

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RE: Comment by lucas_maximus
by Athlander on Mon 27th Feb 2012 14:28 in reply to "Comment by lucas_maximus"
Athlander Member since:
2008-03-10

True. They also have a nice list of fines for all manner of bad practices. After being fined €152 million by the European Commission in 2007, Neelie Kroes (who was European Union competition commissioner at the time), said Telefonica's activities in the broadband market "harmed Spanish consumers, Spanish businesses and the Spanish economy as a whole, and by extension Europe's economy". (I don't think they have paid the fine, as the last I heard the Spanish governmentis backing their appeal against the decision.)

Tread warily.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I've only just moved to spain, and they have pretty much a monopoly over Spain. Everyone English Spanish speaker I currently spoken to hasn't had anything good to say about them.

Edited 2012-02-27 15:23 UTC

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RE: Comment by lucas_maximus
by sicofante on Mon 27th Feb 2012 17:05 in reply to "Comment by lucas_maximus"
sicofante Member since:
2009-07-08

(Another Spaniard here.)

Not just that, but I haven't seen Telefónica ever creating a good software project or even a working website (their customers area is a nightmare). It's like all they touch becomes shitware. Hopefully, they're only pouring money into the Mozilla Foundation and not "helping" with their own engineers.

I do believe the web will be THE platform for mobile. It will probably be also the platform for consumer laptops and tablets. The desktop will be "relegated" to professional use.

Edited 2012-02-27 17:13 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by dariapra on Mon 27th Feb 2012 22:23 in reply to "RE: Comment by lucas_maximus"
dariapra Member since:
2012-02-27

(Another Spaniard here.)

Not just that, but I haven't seen Telefónica ever creating a good software project or even a working website (their customers area is a nightmare). It's like all they touch becomes shitware. Hopefully, they're only pouring money into the Mozilla Foundation and not "helping" with their own engineers.


I am afraid that you need glasses or replacing the pair you already use.

Fact: according to the Wikipedia, Telefónica «is the third largest provider in the world» [1].

According to your words, I guess that Telefónica must have reached this position because a long series of lucky flukes. (Or you * do * get new glasses.)

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telef%C3%B3nica

Edited 2012-02-27 22:25 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by zima on Sun 4th Mar 2012 05:10 in reply to "RE: Comment by lucas_maximus"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I do believe the web will be THE platform for mobile. It will probably be also the platform for consumer laptops and tablets. The desktop will be "relegated" to professional use.

So "relegated" to ~work, a place to do work, a "workplace" - except this word has an established meaning. Maybe we could call them... workstations?

And the devices using web... hm... by precedence of most basic software meant to remotely connect to servers - terminals?

Yup, you've heard it first here.

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