Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th Feb 2012 23:11 UTC
Linux Linus Torvalds on requiring the root password for mundane tasks. "So here's a plea: if you have anything to do with security in a distro, and think that my kids (replace 'my kids' with 'sales people on the road' if you think your main customers are businesses) need to have the root password to access some wireless network, or to be able to print out a paper, or to change the date-and-time settings, please just kill yourself now. The world will be a better place." Yes, it's harsh (deal with it, Finns don't beat around the bush), but he's completely and utterly right. While there's cases where it makes sense to disable certain settings (public terminals, for instance), it is utterly idiotic that regular home users have to type in their root password for such mundane tasks.
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Getting Tired
by tuma324 on Tue 28th Feb 2012 23:54 UTC
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Am I the only one who is getting tired with all of his rants and with the attention they get?

He may be a smart person and he might be right about what he is ranting about. I'm also grateful for Linux and Git, and I kinda feel sorry for his daughter.

However, does that gives him the permission to call other people "morons" and "mentally diseased" ALL THE TIME. Worse yet, asking them to kill themselves?

I don't know but this is getting old, it causes too many issues in FOSS and people get negative and fight all the time.

Does anyone else feels the same way? *sigh* :-(

Edited 2012-02-29 00:07 UTC

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RE: Getting Tired
by Gullible Jones on Wed 29th Feb 2012 00:02 in reply to "Getting Tired"
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Have to agree on that. His statement re Linux distros is (IMO) correct, but recommending suicide on the internets is stupid - you never know what nutcase/zealot/idiot/gossip might be listening.

Not sure that this has any impact on FOSS usage though. I mean, Steve Jobs was an epic screwball and people still bought (and continue to buy) tons of Apple shit. *whistles*

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RE[2]: Getting Tired
by jgagnon on Wed 29th Feb 2012 01:39 in reply to "RE: Getting Tired"
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Some people need to lighten up and/or get up to date with slang terms. "Kill yourself now" does not mean you expect someone to actually kill themselves, just like "that's cool" does not mean "that's cold to the touch".


This world will PC itself to death some day.

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RE: Getting Tired
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 29th Feb 2012 08:15 in reply to "Getting Tired"
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"Am I the only one who is getting tired with all of his rants and with the attention they get?"

Maybe not, but I enjoy them quite a bit myself... and he raises some good points.

"However, does that gives him the permission to call other people 'morons' and 'mentally diseased' ALL THE TIME."

Why not? He can say whatever the hell he wants. Whether you agree or disagree, fine, argue if you want. But there's no reason to bitch about his choice of language.

"Worse yet, asking them to kill themselves?"

I honestly doubt that he meant that in a 100% serious, non-joking way. If anyone is getting pissed because they really think he is being completely serious, maybe they need to quit jumping at conclusions or consider anger management. Chances are, you're getting mad over nothing.

Does anyone else feels the same way?

I only have seven more words to say: shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits. ;)

If that gets you mad, go smoke a bowl and relax.

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RE[2]: Getting Tired
by Kebabbert on Thu 1st Mar 2012 10:10 in reply to "RE: Getting Tired"
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Anyway, I think we all can agree that Linux Torvalds has some attitude problems. I mean, why would you call OpenBSD developers for "masturbating monkeys" because they think security is important?

With a big ego such as Linus T, I doubt he would let anyone govern over his creation. I mean, if I created something, would I let someone else decide the name? Hell no.

There is no chance that "Linus T friend decided to call it Linux". With such a big ego, it was Linus T that decided to call it Linux.

As Stallman said: "I am not the one who calls GNU for Stallmanix" - implying that to name a creation after yourself requires some ego.

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RE: Getting Tired
by boudewijn on Wed 29th Feb 2012 08:51 in reply to "Getting Tired"
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You're not the only one. I'm getting just as tired, especially because he's setting an example and people seem to think that it's okay to behave like that everywhere.

It's what leads to posts like this:

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RE: Getting Tired
by wibbit on Thu 1st Mar 2012 13:41 in reply to "Getting Tired"
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It's a pity, that due to his fame, and more importantly other people apparently blindly following and agreeing (or not blindly, but taking a considered view, and agreeing), and with news sites further highlighting his views, that he should be censored, and would not be allowed the same freedom as you or I.

Why is it, that I could say that, yet he can not?

Yes yes, fame, moral responsibility (and advocating shooting one's self is a bit extreme, but it's obviously meant in humour), however I don't think this is at all extreme, it is, as he said, a simple rant.

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RE: Getting Tired
by Flatland_Spider on Fri 2nd Mar 2012 19:27 in reply to "Getting Tired"
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You'd think he would be a more well spoken at this point in his life.

Anyway, Theo's rants are better, and he was doing it when it wasn't cool. ;)

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