Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th Feb 2012 23:11 UTC
Linux Linus Torvalds on requiring the root password for mundane tasks. "So here's a plea: if you have anything to do with security in a distro, and think that my kids (replace 'my kids' with 'sales people on the road' if you think your main customers are businesses) need to have the root password to access some wireless network, or to be able to print out a paper, or to change the date-and-time settings, please just kill yourself now. The world will be a better place." Yes, it's harsh (deal with it, Finns don't beat around the bush), but he's completely and utterly right. While there's cases where it makes sense to disable certain settings (public terminals, for instance), it is utterly idiotic that regular home users have to type in their root password for such mundane tasks.
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RE[2]: Getting Tired
by jgagnon on Wed 29th Feb 2012 01:39 UTC in reply to "RE: Getting Tired"
jgagnon
Member since:
2008-06-24

Some people need to lighten up and/or get up to date with slang terms. "Kill yourself now" does not mean you expect someone to actually kill themselves, just like "that's cool" does not mean "that's cold to the touch".

/sigh

This world will PC itself to death some day.

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RE[3]: Getting Tired
by tuma324 on Wed 29th Feb 2012 01:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Getting Tired"
tuma324 Member since:
2010-04-09

Some people need to lighten up and/or get up to date with slang terms. "Kill yourself now" does not mean you expect someone to actually kill themselves, just like "that's cool" does not mean "that's cold to the touch".

/sigh

This world will PC itself to death some day.


Sorry but English is not my native or first language, it might not be obvious for me at first.

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RE[4]: Getting Tired
by Fergy on Wed 29th Feb 2012 05:27 in reply to "RE[3]: Getting Tired"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

Sorry but English is not my native or first language, it might not be obvious for me at first.

Linus Torvalds isn't a native speaker either but if you spent a little time on the internet you could pick up the slang. This is just a matter of free speech. If you don't like what or how somebody is saying something you simply don't listen(or kill yourself).
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/go-kill-your-self

Edited 2012-02-29 05:30 UTC

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RE[4]: Getting Tired
by Savior on Wed 29th Feb 2012 08:48 in reply to "RE[3]: Getting Tired"
Savior Member since:
2006-09-02

Come on, even then, obviously you understand the meaning of his words. If someone said something to the same effect in your own mother tongue, would you interpret it literaly or sardonically? If the first, it's not a problem of foreign language understanding for sure.

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RE[3]: Getting Tired
by AdamW on Wed 29th Feb 2012 02:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Getting Tired"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

er, the alternative slang meaning of 'cool' is universally established and understood and has been for decades. I've never, ever, heard anyone suggest that 'kill yourself' has some kind of alternative slang meaning until you did, just now. It may be the case that Linus didn't mean it literally and that should be 'obvious' from tone / context, but that's a much more nuanced case than a term which clearly and simply just has two meanings that just about everyone understands.

Edited 2012-02-29 02:40 UTC

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RE[4]: Getting Tired
by jgagnon on Wed 29th Feb 2012 03:13 in reply to "RE[3]: Getting Tired"
jgagnon Member since:
2008-06-24

I live in the US and where I live now and where I grew up "kill yourself now", while not universal, is a common term to anyone under 40(ish). /shrug As you said, it was obviously not intended to be taken literally.

I'm not so much supporting Linus as I am rallying against people that think nothing offensive should be said ever. The "PC" crowd. They're ruining the world's sense of humor. :p

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RE[3]: Getting Tired
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 29th Feb 2012 05:32 in reply to "RE[2]: Getting Tired"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Not all native English speakers will pick up on that slang either. In fact most people I talk with on a daily basis will think that expression is advocating suicide.

It is most definitely not on the same level of universal understanding as "cool".

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RE[4]: Getting Tired
by Soulbender on Wed 29th Feb 2012 06:35 in reply to "RE[3]: Getting Tired"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

I talk with on a daily basis will think that expression is advocating suicide.


How stupid are those people? Really? There's no way in hell any person, native speaker or not, could possible take Linus words as actually advocating suicide. Unless you're an complete moron. Maybe it's not a good expression, maybe some people are offended by it but that's not the point.
There's really no kind way to put this; if you think Linus is actually advocating real-life suicide you're an idiot.

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RE[3]: Getting Tired
by boudewijn on Wed 29th Feb 2012 08:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Getting Tired"
boudewijn Member since:
2006-03-05

That still doesn't make it right. It's wrong to call upon people to kill themselves. It's wrong to say of other people that they're braindead.

If that's PC'ing the world to death, then so be it.

It's not about needing to lighten up, it's about needing to learn basic manners.

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