Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th Feb 2012 09:47 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems This morning, I experienced the nerd equivalent of a Black Friday $50 iPad sale. At 07:00 CET, the first batch of the much-anticipated Raspberry Pi went on sale, and while Raspberry Pi itself was very properly prepared, the two large international retailers actually selling the device weren't - despite warnings from Raspberry Pi about the enormous amount of traffic that would come their way, the two sites crumbled to dust within seconds. There's good news too - the cheaper model A has seen its RAM doubled at no additional cost.
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RE: Well, guess I won't order one
by Morty on Wed 29th Feb 2012 16:08 UTC in reply to "Well, guess I won't order one"
Morty
Member since:
2005-07-06

With some snipping, there was lots of gems here:


- What did they do, go out and find the worst two fly-by-night distributors they could find?

- Looks like they did ZERO research and didn't even try going through said companies order processes before giving the green light on using them.

- No offense guys, but my scammy sense is tingling when it comes to both of those "distributors".

- I call it ineptitude at choosing one's business partners,

- Here's hoping they get a REAL distributor or *SHOCK* even better a REAL RETAILER involved... instead of what seems to me like the "first swinging **** through the door" approach...

Talking about not having a clue, you really show the world your lack in epic magnitude with this comment. You surely do not have a clue what RS and Farnell are.

FYI:
RS Components is the world's leading high service distributor of electronics and maintenance products. Through operations in 32 countries and 17 warehouses, the Group serves 1.6 million customers worldwide, shipping more than 46,000 parcels on the same day the orders are received.

Farnell is one of the worlds leading distributors of electronic, electrical, industrial and maintenance, repair & operations (MRO) products.
Employing over 1200 people in more than 20 countries
Working with over 800 world class suppliers
Offering over 480,000 stocked products. With ordering 24 hours a day, 365 days a year



As for picking distributors, it's hard to do any better. Perhaps if you are a computer accessory vendor and get a world-wide deal with Dell and Apple, you may top it distributor wise.

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deathshadow Member since:
2005-07-12

Funny since for decades I've been buying a lot of the stuff that allegedly these two companies deal in...both retail and wholesale... and NEVER heard of them.

"RS Componants" looks like cheap ass fly by night clone of Digikey. Farnell you either have their main site that looks like a component "lister" (those useless pages that tell you there ARE such components, good luck ordering them) making it not even look as well established as Jameco... or even Adafruit. Then you have their goofy feel good 'community' which seems to be the only place you can actually do anything... never a good sign.

If anything, what I'm seeing looks more like wholesalers... when what they need is a retailer. That does indeed seem to be it... Wholesalers that near as I can tell don't even have a North America presence (probably why I never heard of them)... when what they needed is a global RETAILER. These are the types of companies you order 500+ bins of Cree LED's from for mass fab -- not hobbyist project boards.

If after fifteen minutes of struggling back and forth between three different browsers I still can't figure out where you would even pre-order ANYTHING from either company... NOT a good sign of legitimacy.

Either that or they're also blocking north american sales for some reason -- or my spamblockers are blocking them. (possible given the warnings Opera is throwing about "Farnell")

If they allegedly handle such large scale volumes of shipments, even with this hype it should have been piss in the bucket -- not 'site-breaking' disaster within minutes of it going live!

Even if they handle the volume of sales claimed, I suspect it's for a different type of market... and that can be all the difference in the world -- since there's a world of difference between corporate scale "maintenance products" and hobbyist scale project boards.

I mean really -- Mouser, Digikey -- is it that hard? While they seem the same focus, at least they have an online sales system that are actually are usable/functional.

Edited 2012-02-29 18:52 UTC

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Grumpy_Mike Member since:
2012-02-29

Funny since for decades I've been buying a lot of the stuff that allegedly these two companies deal in...both retail and wholesale... and NEVER heard of them.


You must get out more and spend less time in your isolation. I have been buying from these people both as professional and home user for over 40 years. That is more of an indictment of you than these two companies. Mind you the launch has been a complete cock up.

I just got a reply from my Farnell order at 15:04 saying the expected delevery date is 16/04/2012 (in the proper format with the day first)

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Morty Member since:
2005-07-06

I mean really -- Mouser, Digikey -- is it that hard? While they seem the same focus, at least they have an online sales system that are actually are usable/functional.

The reasons are fairly simple. Mouser and DigiKey are much more US centric. With the Raspberry Pi developers being UK based and with their primary market targeted at UK schools, it makes sense and most likely they already know the distributors quite well. Besides RS and Farnell together are bigger than Mouser and DigiKey. But it's strange you don't get guided to Farnells US arm, Newark .

Edited 2012-02-29 19:37 UTC

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pixeltricks Member since:
2012-02-29

Funny since for decades I've been buying a lot of the stuff that allegedly these two companies deal in...both retail and wholesale... and NEVER heard of them.

Then you are not an electrical engineer.


Farnell you either have their main site that looks like a component "lister" (those useless pages that tell you there ARE such components, good luck ordering them) making it not even look as well established as Jameco... or even Adafruit.


You are comparing Farnell to Jameco ? Seriously ? Jameco is like a local convenient store comparing itself to walmart .

Wholesalers that near as I can tell don't even have a North America presence (probably why I never heard of them)... when what they needed is a global RETAILER.


Farnell in the USA is at www.newark.com . Everything ships in the USA usually from NJ.
http://www.newark.com/raspberry-pi/raspbrry-pcba/dp/83T1943?Ntt=208...

A retailer is not going to pick up a hobbyist board unless it really really sells. Look how long it took radio shack to start selling arduino.






If after fifteen minutes of struggling back and forth between three different browsers I still can't figure out where you would even pre-order ANYTHING from either company... NOT a good sign of legitimacy.


Just because your browser has issues has nothing to do with the legitimacy of the companies. Both companies allow purchase orders and have accounts set up with major organizations like dunn and bradstreet. They hold millions upon millions of dollars of components in stock and are preferred distributors for atmel, microchip, TI, NXP, freescale, Xilinx and others, it doesn't get any more legitimate than that.


Either that or they're also blocking north american sales for some reason -- or my spamblockers are blocking them. (possible given the warnings Opera is throwing about "Farnell")


Opera ? the lowest market share browser has issues ? no surprise.


If they allegedly handle such large scale volumes of shipments, even with this hype it should have been piss in the bucket -- not 'site-breaking' disaster within minutes of it going live!


Nothing alleged about it, when you can place an order for $748,000 worth of parts and have it delivered on time and even being called about updates that is what good business does. Their web sites are not their primary way of doing sales, many still prefer to call to place orders. People that do regular orders even have specific sales reps they deal with on a first name basis.


Even if they handle the volume of sales claimed, I suspect it's for a different type of market... and that can be all the difference in the world -- since there's a world of difference between corporate scale "maintenance products" and hobbyist scale project boards.

I mean really -- Mouser, Digikey -- is it that hard? While they seem the same focus, at least they have an online sales system that are actually are usable/functional.


Mouser and digikey are the in the same business and would have crashed just like the others. Mouser also does not do all its business through the web site. There is a huge difference in web site load from normal traffic and one where you have a bunch of people all wanting a product released that second. That isn't any of these companies typical web site load. Electronic parts don't get released that way, they normally trickle out to distributors over time.

Be patient, there isn't anything the pi can do today that it will not be able to do in 30 days.

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