Linked by David Adams on Thu 1st Mar 2012 22:39 UTC, submitted by Andy Kosela
OSNews, Generic OSes MINIX 3.2.0 stable is released. Major features include: Asynchronous, multithreaded virtual file system (VFS) server, Better reliability, Better virtualization support, and much more.
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jayrulez
Member since:
2011-10-17

This is obviously not a performance issue, but a stability issue. The performance of my laptop is just fine. However, I was expecting less crashes... And these crashes seems to be caused by a driver issue. If the issue was isolated to a single subsystem e.g sound driver, then the system would be able to restart the sound driver in a microkernel design; not so in the design of linux where the misbehaving driver will most likely crash the system.

When did minix 3 start out? How long did it take for linux to become relevant?

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tuma324 Member since:
2010-04-09

This is obviously not a performance issue, but a stability issue. The performance of my laptop is just fine. However, I was expecting less crashes... And these crashes seems to be caused by a driver issue. If the issue was isolated to a single subsystem e.g sound driver, then the system would be able to restart the sound driver in a microkernel design; not so in the design of linux where the misbehaving driver will most likely crash the system.

When did minix 3 start out? How long did it take for linux to become relevant?


Have you tried to do some bug reporting?

Why don't you tell us what laptop you have? or what chipset/module/driver you were using, and if you could reproduce this?

I wonder if you're just trolling...

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jayrulez Member since:
2011-10-17

I did a bug report a while back.

I'm using a Dell Inspiron N4030. I also had the same issue with a Compaq F579WM and My HP at work (I don't remember the exact model number now but it's something like nc6120...).

The primary one, the Dell N4030 http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Dell_Insp_4030_W7B .

I'm sure I can reproduce this right now.

jayrulez@IN4030:~$ sensors
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +80.5°C (crit = +87.0°C)

playing a video (note not flash).

If I didn't kill the player through the system monitor utility then it would have just gotten a little hotter then hang then shut off.

I have windows 7 and ubuntu dual booted. I cannot use ubuntu for skype or google/+ video calls because of this, so I have to log into windows 7 at least once per week.

I'm in the process of backing up the system now to install 12.04 beta hoping that this issue has been resolved in the later kernel version.

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renox Member since:
2005-07-06

This is obviously not a performance issue, but a stability issue.
In your post you were complaining both of a performance issue and a crash issue.

If the issue was isolated to a single subsystem e.g sound driver, then the system would be able to restart the sound driver in a microkernel design
Maybe, but I remember an issue with a firmware(driver?) where a SoundBlaster hogged the PCI bus, similar bus issues on a telecom equipment, temperature issues causing crashes, DMA issues (IO-MMU are still disabled because they're too buggy AFAIK): all these issues cannot be solved by microkernels.

When did minix 3 start out? How long did it take for linux to become relevant?

The Hurd was started a long time ago, it never became relevant despiste being "micro-kernelish", I wish Minix3 better luck, we'll see but remember that historically a better design isn't enough to be successful.
A lo

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