Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 6th Mar 2012 23:27 UTC
Windows As you may have seen, David's been taking care of OSNews for a few days because I'm quite busy with work. Still, there's one thing I'd like to talk about: the desktop mode in Windows 8. I wish I could've added this to the first impressions article, but I only arrived at this conclusion yesterday: desktop mode in Windows 8 is Microsoft's equivalent of Mac OS X's Classic mode.
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RE[2]: Metro
by Bit_Rapist on Wed 7th Mar 2012 16:13 UTC in reply to "RE: Metro"
Bit_Rapist
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2005-11-13

Thom you can't see a possible scenario in the near future where Linux might take off on the desktop?

Let me paint a picture of how it could *possibly* happen.

1 - Windows 8 is a disaster, loss of desktop functionality leads to frustration with the operating system. MS bleeds a lot of customers

2 - Apple continues to turn OS X into iOS and starts pushing mac computers with ARM processors and locks the user to the appstore for all software needs. People called you crazy when you proposed this will happen but I fully believe it is just a matter of time. I'm in your camp on this one.

I can def see Linux on the desktop becoming popular. We hear a lot about the 'war on general computing' and you have posted about it yourself. There is a war. As more people start waking up to the *freedoms* they are losing linux will start looking a whole lot better than ever.

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RE[3]: Metro
by ilovebeer on Wed 7th Mar 2012 17:16 in reply to "RE[2]: Metro"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

1 - Windows 8 is a disaster, loss of desktop functionality leads to frustration with the operating system. MS bleeds a lot of customers

You're making a terribly enormous assumption that most Windows 7 users _are_ going to switch to Windows 8. I can't think of a single person I've heard say they'll make that switch, and I can't count how many people said they're going to skip Windows 8 completely.

2 - Apple continues to turn OS X into iOS and starts pushing mac computers with ARM processors and locks the user to the appstore for all software needs. People called you crazy when you proposed this will happen but I fully believe it is just a matter of time. I'm in your camp on this one.

It would be interesting to see how many Apple users would care if this happened or not. The app store seems to be fully accepted by the vast majority so I'd bet the only ones who would protest would be a small handful.

I can def see Linux on the desktop becoming popular. We hear a lot about the 'war on general computing' and you have posted about it yourself. There is a war. As more people start waking up to the *freedoms* they are losing linux will start looking a whole lot better than ever.

In your scenario the only way Linux becomes popular is with the complete failure of everything else. That doesn't speak very highly of Linux.

I take another position. I do not see Linux becoming a popular desktop solution, ever, and it has nothing to do with the 'competition' at all. I come to my conclusion based on all the ailments Linux has as a desktop, and it's total inability to do so in many many many years of availability. Not to mention it's failure to gain support by companies in key areas, gaming for example.

I also don't believe the vast majority believes in or gives a damn about any 'war on computing'. As long as they're able to do what they want to do, which is basically use the web, email, socialize, and media playback, they couldn't care less. When was the last time you heard an average user complain about feeling oppressed and his non-existent 'computer rights' being taken from him? Never, or damn close to it.

I understand some people have a serious bromance going with Linux, but with any issues you _might_ solve by switching to it, you're introducing a whole host of others. Linux has it's place in the computer world, but it's not as a solid desktop alternative.

I suppose now I'll wait for someone to list off the email clients, web browsers, and media players for Linux like that is somehow supposed to make everything I just said disappear.

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RE[3]: Metro
by WereCatf on Wed 7th Mar 2012 17:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Metro"
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2006-02-15

1 - Windows 8 is a disaster, loss of desktop functionality leads to frustration with the operating system. MS bleeds a lot of customers


People don't just suddenly decide to upgrade to Win8. They use whatever their machines come with and if the machines come with Win8 and they don't like it they'll just take the machine back and demand something else, at which point they'll be offered either a Mac or Win7.

2 - Apple continues to turn OS X into iOS and starts pushing mac computers with ARM processors and locks the user to the appstore for all software needs. People called you crazy when you proposed this will happen but I fully believe it is just a matter of time. I'm in your camp on this one.


Of course this will happen, but people will still use Macs anyway.

As more people start waking up to the *freedoms* they are losing


You're WAY out of touch with the rest of the world there. The general populace does not see things like that, they do not think what "rights" or "freedoms" they have or don't have as long as they get their carrot-on-a-stick. Access to Apple App Store and iTunes for example is one such carrot and it works just fine. The tactics is simple; have people focus on one thing while you're doing your thing behind their backs, then just say "No, it cannot do that, you must buy this-and-that" and people will do so.

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RE[4]: Metro
by Gone fishing on Thu 8th Mar 2012 11:44 in reply to "RE[3]: Metro"
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2006-02-22

You're WAY out of touch with the rest of the world there. The general populace does not see things like that, they do not think what "rights" or "freedoms" they have

People don't tend to worry too much about freedom until its gone.

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