Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 8th Mar 2012 17:59 UTC, submitted by kragil
Windows Microsoft has disclosed just which limitations Windows Phone 'Tango' will have on low-end devices (256MB RAM). It's pretty hefty - most importantly, the ability to 'multitask' has been disabled. Aren't there more powerful unlimited Android phones out there? What's the point of all this?
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Point is...
by TBPrince on Thu 8th Mar 2012 19:57 UTC
TBPrince
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Point is being able to replace lower-end Symbian dumbphones with a Windows Phone "Starter" version, cheap enough for 50-100 EUR phones.

Not sure that will work but IF it does, just remember Nokia still is Worldwide leader for dumbphones, expecially in emerging markets.

If, and I say IF, MS can channel Windows Phone "Starter" to those phones, they could get lots of money virtually anywhere in the world. Plus, they will have a teaser to make users upgrade to full WP experience.

This is clever. However, I think they miscalculated something since I believe they think they will be able to buy Nokia out if this strategy works. My bet is they will not be allowed to buy Nokia by the EU ;-)

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RE: Point is...
by CapEnt on Thu 8th Mar 2012 20:29 in reply to "Point is..."
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2005-12-18

The WP7 can't run on that low-end hardware.

When you talk about Nokia feature phones that sells like hot cakes in emerging markets, you speak of things like Nokia C3 or Nokia E5. No way that you can trim enough features of WP7 for it to run smooth on that hardware, even in one or two years, without rising the price and get punched to the sidelines by Samsung and LG.

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RE[2]: Point is...
by TBPrince on Thu 8th Mar 2012 23:07 in reply to "RE: Point is..."
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2005-07-06

We're not talking about WP7 here but a scaled down version of it.

By the time WP 8 will be available, I guess a C3 will feature 256MB instead of 55.

It makes sense to me. Doesn't mean it will work but if I had to put 10 euros on it, I think it will work. WP7.5 is selling quite well, though not extraordinary yet and a unified (but scaled down) experience with feature phones makes sense.

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RE[2]: Point is...
by zima on Thu 15th Mar 2012 23:59 in reply to "RE: Point is..."
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2005-07-06

C3 granted, but E5 is a Symbian smartphone, so relatively expensive... (I think one can find decent, if entry level, Androids for around the same price)

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RE: Point is...
by fran on Fri 9th Mar 2012 07:50 in reply to "Point is..."
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If it works Nokia as a company might be too expensive for MS to buy.

Edited 2012-03-09 07:52 UTC

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RE[2]: Point is...
by TBPrince on Fri 9th Mar 2012 12:23 in reply to "RE: Point is..."
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It would be expensive but not too expensive. Just call it merging and give MS enough share to control it.

Anyway, I don't think that will happen because EU won't allow Nokia to be sold to a US company.

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RE[2]: Point is...
by dsmogor on Fri 9th Mar 2012 21:28 in reply to "RE: Point is..."
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2005-09-01

Currently parts of Nokia (maps, phones, smarphones, NSN) have more projected market valuation that the whole. So buying the company, splitting, selling off unneeded parts to the Chinese may end up on 0 balance.

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RE: Point is...
by zima on Thu 15th Mar 2012 23:31 in reply to "Point is..."
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2005-07-06

My bet is they will not be allowed to buy Nokia by the EU ;-)

I don't think that will happen because EU won't allow Nokia to be sold to a US company.

Why wouldn't the EU allow it, while allowing for fairly close relation that's already in place? (including closures of some EU Nokia plants, pushed by ex-MS CEO)

And, in the past, the EU allowing for the sale of Skype, one of the largest (already by then, now probably the largest, operations still based in the EU) carriers of international traffic, to several US companies by now ...including Microsoft.

Or, while the EU allows plenty of US-based equipment in its public services networks (non-consumer division of Motorola) or military structures.



BTW, there are reallu no 50-100€ Symbian smartphones, they basically start at the ~100 mark.
50-100 is the range of S40 "dumbphones" ...and S40 is NOT Symbian.
Unified doesn't work for Nokia, they still sell tons of even S30, they would have to outright ignore tons of their present buyers.

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