Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 7th Mar 2012 22:59 UTC
Apple And it was that time of the year again - Apple held one of its product announcements. This one focussed on the iPad mostly, and while some will call it a disappointment merely because virtually everything had already been leaked, I'm still in awe over the fact the newly announced iPad has a 2048x1536 display. My mind is blown.
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RE[4]: Still Crippled.
by bornagainenguin on Thu 8th Mar 2012 22:10 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Still Crippled."
bornagainenguin
Member since:
2005-08-07

nefer replied...

Great! Now tell me how to get iTunes on the iPad to download my podcasts without thirdparty tools or hacks and without needing to connect to a desktop with iTunes...


Get them on the iTunes store.


Not trying to move the goalpost on you--honest I'm not--but while that works for one offs, where is the ability to subscribe to a podcast, the way you can do on the desktop iTunes client? The iPad version of the iTunes app only seems to allow you to download episodes one at a time. There does not seem to be a method of subscribing within its iTunes client.

In essence to taste a show you can use the iPad version of the client, but if you want to really get regular episodes to download you need to use the desktop to sync the device. The iPad is still crippled because of this dependency on a 90s era model of interacting with a mobile device. This completely curtails its functionality as a post-PC device, because ding ding ding you STILL need a PC to make it all work!

--bornagainpenguin

EDIT - fixed silly typo

Edited 2012-03-08 22:14 UTC

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v RE[5]: Still Crippled.
by nefer on Thu 8th Mar 2012 22:22 in reply to "RE[4]: Still Crippled."
RE[6]: Still Crippled.
by phoenix on Thu 8th Mar 2012 23:17 in reply to "RE[5]: Still Crippled."
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Until you really want to listen to that new podcast ... and don't have access to wireless/cellular so can't download it.

There has to be a balance between "download things when you want to listen" and "have it already downloaded so you can just start to listen".

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RE[6]: Still Crippled.
by bornagainenguin on Fri 9th Mar 2012 01:52 in reply to "RE[5]: Still Crippled."
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

nefer suggested....

This completely curtails its functionality as a post-PC device, because ding ding ding you STILL need a PC to make it all work!

I must say I disagree. Contrary to desktops, you don't have oodles of diskspace on a Post PC device. Being able to subscribe on podcasts - then forgetting about them - and have your disk consequentially filled with podcasts that you haven't listened to yet - or have forgotten about entirely - doesn't sound like a very attractive idea to me.

It makes much more sense not to subscribe them in the first place, and just get them when you want to listen to them. This way you have better control on what the storage on your post pc device gets used for.


That's the first time anyone posted a reason for this default behavior that made a lick of sense! I still think its wrongheaded, because I think I should be the one to make that determination--not Apple. And even if your reasoning is correct this issue could still be worked around, much like the DVR people handle the issue. Apple could make it a setting for the iTunes application to keep at most X episodes. Or they could make it a setting to only use XX GB to store podcasts.

But not even offering me an option to subscribe unless I'm willing to dock the iPad to a desktop, a "real" computer is for the birds. Not everyone wants a 3G\4G account with a carrier (and the stupidity that is bandwidth caps) or will be in a place that always has WiFi. It'd be nice to be able to load up on podcasts ahead of time for those situations. Regardless until this gets fixed it means the iPad is for all intents and purposes crippled.

--bornagainpenguin

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RE[6]: Still Crippled.
by Kivada on Fri 9th Mar 2012 04:20 in reply to "RE[5]: Still Crippled."
Kivada Member since:
2010-07-07

Too much consumerism and hassle. I want my stuff stored and stowed in one place I can browse through at my leisure. So what if I forget about a podcast for a few months? I have a backlog, what about files that may not always be available due to being DMCAd or due to lack of enough mass popularity to always be available on some server somewhere?

Then theres the problem of post release editing, what if a news cast online gets pulled and edited and all you saw was the stream? If you don't have the file you can't compare the 2 to see if it was recut post release.

Edited 2012-03-09 04:26 UTC

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