Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 7th Mar 2012 23:04 UTC, submitted by Richard Lake
Amiga & AROS "The Timberwolf team is proud to announce the immediate availability of the first beta version of Timberwolf 4.0.1. Timberwolf is an AmigaOS web browser based on Firefox/Mozilla technology. This technology is more than just a browser, it is an enabling technology, bringing powerful tools such as html5, WebM, JavaScript, XUL, and more to AmigaOS 4.x. These are the building blocks for other applications as well, such as the email client 'Thunderbird' or the media center 'Songbird'. This first beta release includes almost the full functionality of the browser, allowing style-sheet enabled web browsing, secure connections, use of Firefox add-on and more."
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RE[3]: I'm sure the four people
by paolone on Fri 9th Mar 2012 11:11 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: I'm sure the four people"
paolone
Member since:
2007-09-24

Sorry. I don't follow your arguments here.

You start a mom's sermon about how people shouldn't spend their time on "long abanoned" OSes, and then you tell them they should move their attention to HAIKU instead? (I would understand Linux or FreeBSD, but Haiku...)

For what I can say about it, Be is as dead as Commodore. The only difference is the OS internals, which were obviously more modern and future-proof in BeOS rather than AmigaOS, which was conceived when hardware had far lesser specs. This, however, doesn't change anything about the fact that both BeOS and AmigaOS were de facto abandoned. Both of them had (and AmigaOS still has today) a parent company which takes care of them, but while AmigaOS situation is somehow clear now with Hyperion, can we say the same for the original BeOS?

Haiku is a damn good alternative OSS operating system, but I think AROS has its own meaning for people using it (and even more for former Amigans), and its developers should be proud of what they have done. I find these hints about what-people-should-use and how-people-should-spend-their-time quite arrogant and absolutely pointless.

I am Happy AmigaOS finally got its port of Firefox. Due to OS architecture constraints it was a far harder goal to achieve than on any OSS Posix-compliant OS. This means that the words "impossible to do" have low impact on willing people. I won't use it for reasons which are off topic here, but I am happy it's there.

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MORB Member since:
2005-07-06

I am Happy AmigaOS finally got its port of Firefox. Due to OS architecture constraints it was a far harder goal to achieve than on any OSS Posix-compliant OS. This means that the words "impossible to do" have low impact on willing people. I won't use it for reasons which are off topic here, but I am happy it's there.

It was probably never claimed to be impossible, merely pointless and a waste of energy.

I just can't comprehend what can possibly motivate developers to work so hard just to get an app to run on top of an inadequate OS. In the end, what do you gain from it?

Don't tell me they did it just to learn, because the guys who did that have been doing this kind of thing long enough that they're unlikely to have anything to learn from it anymore.

It's just an exercise of painfully reinventing all sort of wheels that their obsolete OS is missing to achieve end results that have no added value. Plus the entire thing runs only on very expensive niche hardware which is substandard in every way.

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paolone Member since:
2007-09-24

It's just an exercise of painfully reinventing all sort of wheels that their obsolete OS is missing to achieve end results that have no added value. Plus the entire thing runs only on very expensive niche hardware which is substandard in every way.


I think @Hyperion thought they needed a concrete application to show both users and investors that AmigaOS4.1 (and the overpriced platforms it runs on) has some chances to survive in the market. Please, don't drag me into topics I have already told I don't want to talk about: what I think about this, is exactly the motivation why I am happy someone ported Firefox on AmigaOS, BUT I won't use neither AmigaOS nor Timberwolf.

(and no, I am not struggling for an AROS port either, since we've just got a good enough browser today and if I want to run Firefox, I just have to reboot my system)

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