Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Mar 2012 22:47 UTC
Linux "If you meet Linus Torvalds, he comes off as a mild-mannered, down-to-earth Finnish-American. He lives with his wife Tove, three kids, a cat, a dog, a snake, a goldfish, a bunny and a pet rat in a comfortable 6000 square foot home just north of Portland's tony Lake Oswego neighborhood. The house is yellow - his favorite color - and so's the Mercedes. But he's not really like any of his neighbors. He drives his Mercedes fast, slamming the car into gear and flooring it. There's no coaxing, no hesitation. Either the hammer is down, or the car is at rest. And he has an abnormal number of stuffed penguins on his mantle." Yup, sounds like the to-the-point Fin we all know and love.
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Mac OS X
by Lennie on Tue 20th Mar 2012 23:25 UTC
Lennie
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2007-09-22

I had read it before, but I now have some dates to go with it:

'...around 2000, when he was still working at Transmeta, he met Steve Jobs. Jobs invited him to Apple’s Cupertino campus and tried to hire him. “Unix for the biggest user base: that was the pitch,” says Torvalds. The condition: He’d have to drop Linux development. “He wanted me to work at Apple doing non-Linux things,” he said. That was a non-starter for Torvalds. Besides, he hated Mac OS’s Mach kernel.'

What if Jobs had asked Torvalds before Apple had started on the Darwin part of the Mac OS X project ? 2000 is even before the first release of Mac OS X. The world would have been a different place.

As mentioned in the article. Jobs has design taste and Linus has engineering taste.

Not sure if they would get along in the long run though ;-)

But still interresting to think about.

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RE: Mac OS X
by henderson101 on Wed 21st Mar 2012 00:55 in reply to "Mac OS X"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

What if Jobs had asked Torvalds before Apple had started on the Darwin part of the Mac OS X project ? 2000 is even before the first release of Mac OS X. The world would have been a different place.


Um... no. Darwin is based on the Mac OS X base OS. Mac OS X is based (when you rewind back throught he version to the Developer Releases) on Mac OS X Server, which in turn is based on Rhapsody, which in turn is based on OpenStep, which in turn is based on NextStep. You must then factor in that NextStep was Jobs baby back in the late 1980's. Indeed, when Next demonstrated their hardware in 1988, the OS that Mac OS X is based on existed.

Linux was first released in the Winter of 1991.

Do you see the problem with your logic? Jobs was never going to go anywhere near Linux. Even the mkLinix that Apple Sponsored used the Mach kernel.

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RE[2]: Mac OS X
by Lennie on Wed 21st Mar 2012 09:02 in reply to "RE: Mac OS X"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I've never really looked into the history of it.

I thought the Mac OS X UI and application framework was based on NextStep and so on.

I also thought the Darwin part, thus the base OS, did not exists before the Mac OS X project and was based on parts of FreeBSD and an existing micro kernel project.

My thought was, what if the base OS was Linux.

As I've not looked into it. It might not have been able to make it work. Maybe the other parts of Mac OS X just can't function without the micro kernel.

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