Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Mar 2012 21:01 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Because I've been spending days browsing through XDA, reading CM changelogs, and flashing nightly builds, I'm still in an Android state of mind, so excuse me for more talk on the subject. An interesting study has been performed which found that advertisements in Android applications are a huge battery drain - they account for up to 75% of an application's battery usage.
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RE: websites?
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 21st Mar 2012 08:22 UTC in reply to "websites?"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

As such, with just a bare 1G connection, I'm well within my right to remove ads from web pages to speed up page loading.


I have fairly good Internet here, but ads still slow page loading and waste my precious laptop battery. According to your standards it's well within my right to block ads on osnews, but if everybody does it, how will you survive? Will you launch a paid version? OSNews Gold?


We have a paid, ad-free version, actually. Other than that - lots of people block ads on OSNews, and I don't see how we have any right to tell you not to.

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RE[2]: websites?
by pandronic on Wed 21st Mar 2012 10:47 in reply to "RE: websites?"
pandronic Member since:
2006-05-18

Well, you have the right, but you can't enforce it. As a site owner myself, I'm really bothered by the fact that people can enjoy my content, make me pay for the bandwidth and the servers and not contribute anything back.

If a site has really obnoxious ads it's the user's right to not use that site. It's not his right to steal from the site's owner.

I'm really putting effort into making sure that my ads don't bother my users, but after all that, if you still block my ads then, it's really rude, inconsiderate and overall really douchebag behavior on the your part.

So ... get used to the ads or GTFO, I don't need you anyway. If Adblock becomes a big problem for my sites I'll do my best to block those self entitled assholes. After all, if you want to keep visiting my website, think about the fact that I need money to make it and update it and using ads for that is my choice, my right, you are not forced to click them and if you don't like it fuck off.

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RE[3]: websites?
by stestagg on Wed 21st Mar 2012 12:14 in reply to "RE[2]: websites?"
stestagg Member since:
2006-06-03

Sounds like your revenue model is a bit broken if you feel forced to attack your users.

Reminds me somewhat of the RIIA ;)

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RE[3]: websites?
by maccouch on Wed 21st Mar 2012 12:19 in reply to "RE[2]: websites?"
maccouch Member since:
2012-03-14

apart from your "a tad violent" phrasing, the issue is that i cant/is-not-viable to selectively use the adblock. I enable it and it sits there doing its job. I don't even remember it anymore.

What do you propose? that i deliberately go into each site with adblock disabled and then enable it if the website uses too many ads or ads that are not my-taste-suitable? that's just dreaming.

I agree with you that ads can be non-annoying or obtruding but unfortunately 99.9% of the ads today in 99.999% of the websites are. How can we tell them apart?

ideally, and if i could just ask that from the internet deities, Adblock would be standard on every browser with two small changes:

1) that i can whitelist ad-networks.
exampe: the Fusion Ads on most mac centric blogs/websites are pretty nice. one ad per page and content is relevant to the add and vice-versa.

2) that i can say: "i want to see at most N adds" and then the Adnetworks and Website managers would order their adds in importance order on the website code.
So, if you just can show me 2 adds, what will they be? you can't shove 99 ads trough my throat, so please just chose 2!

That would probably satisfy both parties and would make a usable system. but unfortunately it seems too reasonable to actually get a change in the race-to-the-bottom tech world we live in.

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i had a quick reflection on our disability to be reasonable like this on my blog: http://www.maccouch.com/2012/02/tv-is-broken-moderation/ and i think i will probably just post this comment there also. Maybe here and there someone will read it and help us to make it happen.

Edited 2012-03-21 12:27 UTC

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RE[3]: websites?
by Neolander on Wed 21st Mar 2012 17:42 in reply to "RE[2]: websites?"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

At work, I browse the web using a first-gen eMac equipped with insufficient RAM for its current OS (512MB, and it had 384MB when I got it). You should try it too, it gives some perspective as for why people with slow machines and/or crappy network connection can make the decision to block every ad without being complete douchebags.

Then of course, I am okay with ads on my personal laptop, on which they are not much of an annoyance as long as they do not start to use obnoxious Flash animations.

Edited 2012-03-21 17:46 UTC

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RE[2]: websites?
by bouhko on Wed 21st Mar 2012 15:51 in reply to "RE: websites?"
bouhko Member since:
2010-06-24

I had to use Google to find the link to
http://www.osnews.com/subscribe

Shouldn't you try to make it a bit more visible ?

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RE[2]: websites?
by marcus0263 on Wed 21st Mar 2012 21:22 in reply to "RE: websites?"
marcus0263 Member since:
2007-06-02

"As such, with just a bare 1G connection, I'm well within my right to remove ads from web pages to speed up page loading.


I have fairly good Internet here, but ads still slow page loading and waste my precious laptop battery. According to your standards it's well within my right to block ads on osnews, but if everybody does it, how will you survive? Will you launch a paid version? OSNews Gold?


We have a paid, ad-free version, actually. Other than that - lots of people block ads on OSNews, and I don't see how we have any right to tell you not to.
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Wow, for as long as I've been coming here wasn't aware of the ad free. Just signed up

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